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We're now up to 12 responses! That's more than a 25% turn out already!
Amazing to see such a fantastic turnout!
Just thought I'd share a few thoughts regarding the Chemung compromise plan. If the Region does vote 'no' then I support the compromise however I want to make a few points:
-The Compromise brings us in line with most of the operational aspects of the CRCA such as opening Embassies etc. We are essentially agreeing to act as a member without actually being a member.
Here are a few problems with this that I can think of:
-We are not guaranteed the full rights of membership. For example, In Article 3B, member regions are only required to share security issues with Member Regions. Whilst some may remember to share thing with us, others will very easily forget as we wouldn't be a member, meaning that our security will be compromised relative to being a full member.
-Chemung's Plan relies on a new invigoration of our Ambassador Program. I do applaud this however a telegram I sent out about 1 month ago to see if anyone was interested in becoming an Ambassador garnered 0 responses. It is unlikely it can be established to the lengths which the plan relies on.
-We would have no influence or voting rights in the Agreement. We would have no say on its direction and no say in any changes that could be made.
-By Agreeing to increase the cooperation with other Regions, we are essentially doing exactly what the CRCA is meant for. Increasing cooperation among Christian Regions. The only difference in us deciding to observe the agreement and not become a member is that we gain the benefits from cooperation and what the CRCA stands for but we are robbing ourselves of voting rights. That's it. We're saying the cooperation thing is good and that we want to work with others however we are squashing our own voice which we could have to increase cooperation and help shape the agreement in the future.
-As a summary. Vote 'Yes' = Full benefits of Membership and Full voting rights and Full influence. Chemungs's Proposal = Most benefits as if we were a member. No voting rights, very limited influence in the agreement.
-So If we're going to do what the Agreement says anyway, why not join it and have equal membership with the other Members and make our voice heard in increasing Christian Cooperation. If it doesn't work out, we can always vote to leave the Agreement and follow Chemung's Proposal at that point.....
I have submitted my map claim! - 
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Thanks.
I like the way you say "we", like you are not Ecclestia and Christadelphians.
He isn't. The belief that they are the same person has been brought to my attention, and I've looked into it. Their activity doesn't line up anymore than to suggest they are from the same part of the world. The claim does have more standing just comparing the other two nations to each other.
Regardless, there have been far too many accusations lodged against nations here, and I will have none of this. No more slandering people on the RMB. What you do elsewhere is none of my business frankly, so I don't care what you think regarding this information, though I would suggest getting stronger facts than "You usually log on around the same time of day, you're obviously the same person" before making a public accusation of someone.
Took some time to create a regional party. Not sure if it will serve much of a purpose, but it's worth a shot.
Map application posted! Sorry my recent inactivity, I'll start talking more now. :)
Just had a quick look at it!! Looks good. She's from Hillsong. Probably one of the most famous Churches in the World and one of Australia's largest music exports. We don't yet have an Adelaide Extension but I'm sure one will come soon. Always enjoy singing Come to the Lord and Mighty To Save at my Church! (I'm a Baptist)
Since I opened the polls early Sunday night, I'm going to close them at 10pm CST tonight. That way, I can go ahead and count the votes tonight, and have the decision declared tonight. Plus, I'll be busy most of tomorrow, so this just works out better for me. 25 out of 41 nations have cast certified ballots, giving us a 61% turn out so far. If you haven't voted yet, you have a little more than an hour to get any last minute ballots in. I should be announcing the outcome by 11:00
So this was an interesting referendum. Out of our high population of 41 at the start of this referendum, 46 ballots were cast.
Yes, you read that right.
Voter fraud was rampant during this contest with 21 ballots being non-certifiable, meaning the nation it claimed to be from had already voted, or had not been active on Nationstates. All 21 of these ballots were marked "Yes"
We are currently working to determine who was stuffing the ballot box, but we believe all cases were caught. Nations that had their name's used by the fraudulent voters have been/are being notified that this happened.
And of course, there is also the large number of nations that joined after the decision to hold the referendum was made that had their voter enfranchisement withheld by vote of the Security Council (Public Notice was given). Of these, 10 of them voted, and they voted 70% "Yes"
If you are in this group, you will be fully enfranchised as of midnight tonight CST, meaning you are eligible to run and vote in regional elections and referenda.
Now for the eligible voters!
Of the 36 nations that were eligible to vote, only 16 did. The vote was 75% "No". As such, the LCN will not be joining the CRCA. The Foreign Policy of the LCN should use the Chemung Compromise as a framework from here forward.
On a side note, now hiring LCN Ambassadors! Notify Sanpine if you are interested in representing the LCN abroad and being a member of the LCN regional bureaucracy!
Oh, jeez...
Whoever tried to hijack the vote, shame on you. I pray you are caught and are punished aptly.
Whatever. Nonetheless, hurrah! No CRCA! We must remain independent from overreaching organizations like the CRCA and stay strong and united under the Lord as a region. That is our path to a magnificent union of the Christian peoples under our banner.
An offical statement from the office of the Secretary-General of the League of Christian Nations;
The votes have been tallied and results are now known. This is been a hard-fought campaign with emotions that ran high. Now is time to move forward, continuing to make the League of Christian Nations into the great region we all want it to be.
First, I would like to thank Sanpine for his well executed campaign and his persuit to make the LCN better. Secoundly, 
Ecclestia for taking time to speak to our region on behalf of the CRCA. And lastly our very own founder, Union of christian states for all of his hard work conducting the voting process for the referendum.
I'd also like to give a special thanks to all those who voted in favor of the 'NO' Campaign.
God Bless the LCN,
David J. Kontur
Secretary-General of the LCN
Chancellor of Vos istra
The people have spoken.
Anyone else notice that soon after the results were announced 5 nations left for The Graveyard and that we are now down to about the same population pre-referendum? Surprise surprise.
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