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Adawn wrote:I see! I'm still studying the CRCAs Constitution myself, I will try to explain the best way I can. The CRCA, as I have observed is not a union, but rather, a cooperation between all Christian denominations, to unify, and to grow Christianity and the principles that which lie In the Bible not only to people in the darkness in real life, but also digitally. For example, back during, before, and after the Reformation, my ancestors were followers of Menno Simons, a very humble, Christian man. Anyway, my ancestors were slaughtered, and murdered from both Catholicism(for sure), and Protestantism(I think not sure). So really I'm not part of Protestantism, but a result of the Reformation is, if you know what I mean. Anyway, you see those same denominations in this cooperation our region is in. And why? Catholicism has destroyed my ancestors long ago, why should I trust them? I believe they have forgiven their acts which is good. As you see I'm today's world, Christianity is declining. And I fully believe that us Christian denominations do need to cooperate, and do not bash each other, so that we can promote Christianity. That's my view on the CRCA...I don't know how I'm supposed to look at the CRCA but that's my view. Anyway, it states in the CRCA's Constitution, that they follow the ways of the Apostles Creed, due to the diversity of the denominations, the CRCA couldn't be specific...but as you know, the Apostles Creed supports the belief of the Trinity of The Father, the Son, and The Holy Spirit. So anyway, I'm not sure if I exactly answered your question...let me know your thoughts and questions:)

Thanks for your detailed response. We'll open up the floor to see if other nations have any questions :)

Sanpine wrote:Thanks for your detailed response. We'll open up the floor to see if other nations have any questions :)

Alrighty! :) Btw, what is your opinions of the US election and who do you support? I don't think I have ever asked a evangelical before

Adawn wrote:Alrighty! :) Btw, what is your opinions of the US election and who do you support? I don't think I have ever asked a evangelical before

Evangelical?? I'm a Baptist!!!! I'm from Adelaide in Australia so I couldn't vote but never Trump. I'd vote for Hillary Clinton if I was able. There is so much fear here in Australia regarding Donald Trump. The Governor of our Central Bank stated yesterday that they are developing a plan if the 'markets react badly' and we all know he was talking about Donald Trump. He is all rhetoric, no policy and 100% dangerous and divisive. He has no integrity, and certainly doesn't speak to people or produce policies consistent with Biblical Principles.
But as it seems, he will be wiped out in the Electoral College. I hope in the popular vote too.

Sanpine wrote:Evangelical?? I'm a Baptist!!!! I'm from Adelaide in Australia so I couldn't vote but never Trump. I'd vote for Hillary Clinton if I was able. There is so much fear here in Australia regarding Donald Trump. The Governor of our Central Bank stated yesterday that they are developing a plan if the 'markets react badly' and we all know he was talking about Donald Trump. He is all rhetoric, no policy and 100% dangerous and divisive. He has no integrity, and certainly doesn't speak to people or produce policies consistent with Biblical Principles.
But as it seems, he will be wiped out in the Electoral College. I hope in the popular vote too.

I smell a debate! What about Hillary Clinton? The Donald has endorsed religious freedom here in the US more so than Hillary, and the Donald also wants to stop abortion, which is consistent with some Bible references depending on the type of Bible. I agree, he is a air head, but have you seen Mike Pence? A very good Christian man. I'm kind of shocked you support Hillary lol.

Vos istra and Union of christian states

Adawn wrote:I see! I'm still studying the CRCAs Constitution myself, I will try to explain the best way I can. The CRCA, as I have observed is not a union, but rather, a cooperation between all Christian denominations, to unify, and to grow Christianity and the principles that which lie In the Bible not only to people in the darkness in real life, but also digitally. For example, back during, before, and after the Reformation, my ancestors were followers of Menno Simons, a very humble, Christian man. Anyway, my ancestors were slaughtered, and murdered from both Catholicism(for sure), and Protestantism(I think not sure). So really I'm not part of Protestantism, but a result of the Reformation is, if you know what I mean. Anyway, you see those same denominations in this cooperation our region is in. And why? Catholicism has destroyed my ancestors long ago, why should I trust them? I believe they have forgiven their acts which is good. As you see I'm today's world, Christianity is declining. And I fully believe that us Christian denominations do need to cooperate, and do not bash each other, so that we can promote Christianity. That's my view on the CRCA...I don't know how I'm supposed to look at the CRCA but that's my view. Anyway, it states in the CRCA's Constitution, that they follow the ways of the Apostles Creed, due to the diversity of the denominations, the CRCA couldn't be specific...but as you know, the Apostles Creed supports the belief of the Trinity of The Father, the Son, and The Holy Spirit. So anyway, I'm not sure if I exactly answered your question...let me know your thoughts and questions:)

It's not about trusting each other or other denominations. And the Apostles Creed doesn't support the Trinity however doesn't deny it either. My point can one be in a CHRISTIAN agreement with someone he believes is fundamentally not Christian?

Altius

Adawn has there been any infighting or inter-denominational tension among the Regions of the CRCA and has there been behaviour you would describe that has been non-Christian??

Vos istra wrote:It's not about trusting each other or other denominations. And the Apostles Creed doesn't support the Trinity however doesn't deny it either. My point can one be in a CHRISTIAN agreement with someone he believes is fundamentally not Christian?

Well it does say in the Bible to not judge...do y'all follow that or no?

Sanpine wrote:Adawn has there been any infighting or inter-denominational tension among the Regions of the CRCA and has there been behaviour you would describe that has been non-Christian??

Not at all! While I have been in the CRCA I have felt like I was in their region even with positive communication between me and the CRCA

Adawn wrote:Well it does say in the Bible to not judge...do y'all follow that or no?

Actually it doesn't say that. It does say "Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment.” - John 7:24. In other words don't assume just because someone says they are a Christian that they are. 2 Timothy 3:16 says "All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness," how can we give reproof or correction if we can not judge with right judgement?

If you are thinking of Matthew 7:1 "Judge not, that you be not judged." It's not say it is wrong to judge. It is a warning that if you judge others or you will be held to the same standard you hold others.
Listen to Dr. J. Vernon McGee's explanation of 7:1-4
https://www.blueletterbible.org/audio_video/popPlayer.cfm?id=7255&rel=mcgee_j_vernon/Mat

How can we help anyone if we can not judge their actions as right or wrong? Biblical or secular? Godly or ungodly?

Brusia and Union of christian states

Thank you Adawn for your imput. From such I feel that we have established that the CRCA is more to do with cooperation than a Union and that there has not been inter-denomination tension, in fact it has created positive and warm relations between regions.
Are there any final points which perhaps Ecclestia or any other nation may be able to answer regarding the CRCA that any other LCN nations may have?????

So the main problem here is the trinity, aye? I never knew that oneness wasn't considered Christian though.

Statsen wrote:So the main problem here is the trinity, aye? I never knew that oneness wasn't considered Christian though.

Well how can someone be a Christian and say Jesus is not God?

Vos istra wrote:Well how can someone be a Christian and say Jesus is not God?

I agree. Furthermore, it seems to me that, by the SOF completely ignoring the divinity of Christ, the CRCA is completely willing to deny scripture for the sake of interdenominational unity; all in the name of keeping non-trinitarian nations happy. Is that something we're really considering here?

Vos istra

Statsen wrote:So the main problem here is the trinity, aye? I never knew that oneness wasn't considered Christian though.

Just out of interest, would you consider this a fair characterization of the beliefs of Oneness Pentecostalism? In the view of Oneness Pentecostals, Jesus is in Fact considered God, but a manifestation of God. So there is one divine essence that is manifested in different forms, such as Jesus, The Father, and The Holy Spirit. Which is different from the concept of three coeternal persons, that are not part of God, but are God and there is only one God, as in Trinitarian belief.

Though, I don't agree with that position, I could see that it could be compatible in a lot of ways with the Nicene Creed, which is a useful indicator, though perhaps at odds with other things going on in the church at the time regarding modalistic ideology. Since it preserves the oneness of God and the divinity of Jesus, unlike saying Jesus was a creation, which seems to be what is a major concern for other members of the region, I find this somewhat less objectionable. This makes some of the statements of Jesus regarding The Holy Spirit and The Father rather odd though.

Sanpine

Vos istra wrote:Actually it doesn't say that. It does say "Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment.” - John 7:24. In other words don't assume just because someone says they are a Christian that they are. 2 Timothy 3:16 says "All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness," how can we give reproof or correction if we can not judge with right judgement?
If you are thinking of Matthew 7:1 "Judge not, that you be not judged." It's not say it is wrong to judge. It is a warning that if you judge others or you will be held to the same standard you hold others.
Listen to Dr. J. Vernon McGee's explanation of 7:1-4
https://www.blueletterbible.org/audio_video/popPlayer.cfm?id=7255&rel=mcgee_j_vernon/Mat
How can we help anyone if we can not judge their actions as right or wrong? Biblical or secular? Godly or ungodly?

I see! In my church, if we see a brother or sister going wayward, we confront them...kind of similar to this!

Sanpine wrote:Thank you Adawn for your imput. From such I feel that we have established that the CRCA is more to do with cooperation than a Union and that there has not been inter-denomination tension, in fact it has created positive and warm relations between regions.
Are there any final points which perhaps Ecclestia or any other nation may be able to answer regarding the CRCA that any other LCN nations may have?????

We are in a middle of a election so we are currently busy...but hopefully we can grow Christianity together!

Adawn wrote:I see! In my church, if we see a brother or sister going wayward, we confront them...kind of similar to this!

Exactly it's not that we can't judge, its where are our motives when we judge? Are we trying to prop ourselves up over another to to help someone else.

The followers of the old ways

Vos istra wrote:Exactly it's not that we can't judge, its where are our motives when we judge? Are we trying to prop ourselves up over another to to help someone else.

I gotcha! Kind if like reproof...I see

Vos istra

The Aero Chronicle

National Unrest Over Joining CRCA
Aero, Vos Istra
10/19/2016 4:00 p.m.
Jay Allen, AC

National polls in Vos Istra today show 67% of the people are against joinging the CRCA while 26% support and 7% are undecided. The debate in the LCN has sparked the concerns of all denominational leaders. Catholic leaders are calling the agreement a spiritual wasteland. Many Conservative leaders want a Trinity clause added to the agreement before the LCN joins. While that outcome is unlikely all over the nation the outcry has been directed toward the Chancellor to vote against this agreement.

Assembly leaders have also come out in opposition to the CRCA. Former Lutheran Party Nominee for Chancellor, Senator Martin Matthews, had this to say;

"How can we join a Christian agreement with regions and nations that deny the very core of Christianity? I pray the Chancellor votes against it."

House Representatives from the Christian Progressives Party said that the LCN should join the agreement, that the benefits out weigh any doctrinal concessions.

With tensions growing high around the nation it is safe to say not only is this a defining time for Vos Istra but the LCN as a whole.

Post self-deleted by Statsen.

Chemung wrote:Just out of interest, would you consider this a fair characterization of the beliefs of Oneness Pentecostalism? In the view of Oneness Pentecostals, Jesus is in Fact considered God, but a manifestation of God. So there is one divine essence that is manifested in different forms, such as Jesus, The Father, and The Holy Spirit. Which is different from the concept of three coeternal persons, that are not part of God, but are God and there is only one God, as in Trinitarian belief.
Though, I don't agree with that position, I could see that it could be compatible in a lot of ways with the Nicene Creed, which is a useful indicator, though perhaps at odds with other things going on in the church at the time regarding modalistic ideology. Since it preserves the oneness of God and the divinity of Jesus, unlike saying Jesus was a creation, which seems to be what is a major concern for other members of the region, I find this somewhat less objectionable. This makes some of the statements of Jesus regarding The Holy Spirit and The Father rather odd though.

You pretty much got it there. We see God as one, and the Holy Spirit and Jesus as manifestations of God.

Sanpine

Found this article today and thought it pertinent to the CRCA discussion: http://www.ligonier.org/blog/state-theology-who-christ-we-are-following/

Vos istra

Brusia wrote:Found this article today and thought it pertinent to the CRCA discussion: http://www.ligonier.org/blog/state-theology-who-christ-we-are-following/

Thanks for sharing this. It is exactly the reason why I feel so strongly about this. I suggest everyone read the article.

Hi thanks for the embassy!

Vos istra and Union of christian states

Hello everybody and greetings from Polyanka!!!

Vos istra, Union of christian states, and Statsen

Polyanka wrote:Hello everybody and greetings from Polyanka!!!

Welcome to the region!

Sanpine

Hello
the united christian region leader ejected my nation as being a raider,
Although I was Not a wa member and posed no threat, and never planned a revolt, and I have been falsely accused and persecuted

Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up his heel against me- psalm 41

Vos istra

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