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Vodka loving slavs

New Rogernomics wrote:When you upload a custom flag in Settings, you select the 'ripple' check box.

Just avoid the "supple ripple" setting. Enough said.

Shupei

Vodka loving slavs

Communist stephen colbert wrote:Why my fellow minnows it seems the Not-So-New Pathetic Order and their jaywalker mercenaries drugged the water supply again. So many seem confused as to the status of our dear region. The People's Republic of Lazarus is this region, and it shall stand for ten-thousand updates. At no point has the proletariat fallen while under the protection of the Glorious Chairman Milograd and PRL Chairman Funkadelia. The NPO propaganda should not be taken seriously.
Speaking of propaganda, Yao was nothing more than an impostor. The Glorious Chairman Milograd would never betray the people. The Glorious Revolution continues only under his wise guidance. To dare compare him with the airgangster Yao is warrant of execution D:<

Just as long as we have plenty of show trials. I have to have show trials to prove the show the people that the glorious Revolution continues!

Our future delegate of the proletariat answered my request about Soviet Realist themes in the world factbook entry and so far I'm hearing a definite maybe on this one. We look forward to your glorious worldfactbook entry that speaks to the Revolution! Glory to Lazarus!

The holy empire of pastafariansm

Vodka loving slavs wrote:Just as long as we have plenty of show trials. I have to have show trials to prove the show the people that the glorious Revolution continues!
Our future delegate of the proletariat answered my request about Soviet Realist themes in the world factbook entry and so far I'm hearing a definite maybe on this one. We look forward to your glorious worldfactbook entry that speaks to the Revolution! Glory to Lazarus!

See, this is one of the reasons I hate Commies: the sloganeering. What's up with that? Do you need to keep the masses at a fever pitch of excitement, so they don't slow down and actually think about the poltical/economic system you're offering up? Or is your own faith in the benefits of Communism so fragile that you need constant reinforcement to avoid losing it? Perhaps you're pressuring people to conform, in the way religious zealots and others of their ilk do: throw out these statements, urging people to repeat them while hoping that no-one will question them; prepared to bully anyone who does, in the hope their basic human desire to belong to a group will be stronger than their independence of thought, and they'll shut up.

Not me, Commie. You want Soviet realism? Go stand in line for four hours to buy crappy shoes from a department store with mostly empty shelves. That's Soviet realism.

Loftegen wrote:See, this is one of the reasons I hate Commies: the sloganeering. What's up with that? Do you need to keep the masses at a fever pitch of excitement, so they don't slow down and actually think about the poltical/economic system you're offering up? Or is your own faith in the benefits of Communism so fragile that you need constant reinforcement to avoid losing it? Perhaps you're pressuring people to conform, in the way religious zealots and others of their ilk do: throw out these statements, urging people to repeat them while hoping that no-one will question them; prepared to bully anyone who does, in the hope their basic human desire to belong to a group will be stronger than their independence of thought, and they'll shut up.
Not me, Commie. You want Soviet realism? Go stand in line for four hours to buy crappy shoes from a department store with mostly empty shelves. That's Soviet realism.

You've got to remember, most of the NS communists aren't actually communists; I doubt more than a handful off them know anything beyond the slogans, and nothing at all of actual Marxist theory. It's all the idea of communism with the Stalinist catechisms for them.

Speaking as an actual Marxist (though not a communist), I consider most of the NS reds to be a joke.

Im a legitimate leftist in RL. Originally a DemSoc, transitioned to an ML, but starting to lean more to Anarchism. But as Belschaft pointed out, thats not the case with many NS left people, particularly in regions like Laz where the theme was more roleplayed than serious among all but a few of us.

Kazmr wrote:Im a legitimate leftist in RL. Originally a DemSoc, transitioned to an ML, but starting to lean more to Anarchism. But as Belschaft pointed out, thats not the case with many NS left people, particularly in regions like Laz where the theme was more roleplayed than serious among all but a few of us.

"Marxist"-Leninism was a nightmare, the product of a deeply disturbed and sociopathic mind. I tend to refer to it simply as Leninism or Bolshevikism as there was hardly anything about it that is actually Marxist, aside from the initial analysis.

White chrobatia and Shupei

Belschaft wrote:You've got to remember, most of the NS communists aren't actually communists; I doubt more than a handful off them know anything beyond the slogans, and nothing at all of actual Marxist theory. It's all the idea of communism with the Stalinist catechisms for them.
Speaking as an actual Marxist (though not a communist), I consider most of the NS reds to be a joke.

How do you know I wasn't role-playing a bellicose anti-Communist? :)

Loftegen wrote:How do you know I wasn't role-playing a bellicose anti-Communist? :)

I don't. Nor do I care :P

Loftegen and Shupei

Kazmr wrote:Im a legitimate leftist in RL. Originally a DemSoc, transitioned to an ML, but starting to lean more to Anarchism. But as Belschaft pointed out, thats not the case with many NS left people, particularly in regions like Laz where the theme was more roleplayed than serious among all but a few of us.

That's am interesting way of describing yourself? What do you consider to be an "illegitimate" leftist? What makes you so sure you're a "True Scotsman", to reference the fallacy? Genuinely curious if you have the time to answer.

Belschaft wrote:I don't. Nor do I care :P

The fact that you jumped to the defense of Communism suggests otherwise, but I take you at your word. :)

Communism is on the way out to be honest. The fact that only 4 nations in reality are communist, should speak volumes. Now I don't know about Nation States, but it sure is on the way out in reality.

But they're big nations :P

We humbly apologize for bombing the hospital. We were actually targeting the wedding party across the street.

Signed, The US Military.

Senpai noticed

Loftegen wrote:I voted for it. Now, when you try to protect national assets with human shields, and I bomb them anyway, you'll get double the blame. I see no downside. ;)

You MONSTER! Bombs are people too you know! Don't waste them on human shields. Use them on hospitals.

Loftegen

Doperland wrote:You MONSTER! Bombs are people too you know! Don't waste them on human shields. Use them on hospitals.

No need for bombs, if you have boots on the ground...lots and lots of boots.

Would you like to buy some?

New Rogernomics wrote:No need for bombs, if you have boots on the ground...lots and lots of boots.
Would you like to buy some?

Are the boots made for walking?

Doperland wrote:Are the boots made for walking?

I don't know, they could be for an impromptu performance of Kinky Boots: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinky_Boots_%28musical%29

By 'legitimate' leftist I was simply making the distinction between myself, who is legitimately on the far left politically in real life, and a sizable group of people on NS who roleplay as leftists but don't hold those views IRL :P Not trying to play the sectarian card there.

Loftegen

Shupei wrote:Communism is on the way out to be honest. The fact that only 4 nations in reality are communist, should speak volumes. Now I don't know about Nation States, but it sure is on the way out in reality.

*snorts*

Nonsense. There isn't a single country in existence that can be called genuinely Communist, though there are certainly regimes calling themselves such. Communism has been irrevocably tarnished as a set of ideas by Lenin's infectious madness, which is a shame as it wasn't that terrible model of society.

Senpai noticed

Samrajya bharatavarsa

But there is no possible way to achieve "true communism" beyond the local scale, such as in Jewish kibbutizim. On the national or state level it's impossible without the application of force.

Samrajya bharatavarsa wrote:But there is no possible way to achieve "true communism" beyond the local scale, such as in Jewish kibbutizim. On the national or state level it's impossible without the application of force.

Communism realistically speaking requires a level of technological advancement and automation that we're only just approaching; in a few years it may actually become a feasible model for society if we achieve a post-scarcity economy.

It is essential to remember that Marx never expected to live to see Communism develop, as he was well aware that the requirements for it would not be met for decades if not centuries after his death. Bolshevikism was an attempt to substitute brute force for time and technological development.

Samrajya bharatavarsa

Belschaft wrote:Communism realistically speaking requires a level of technological advancement and automation that we're only just approaching; in a few years it may actually become a feasible model for society if we achieve a post-scarcity economy.
It is essential to remember that Marx never expected to live to see Communism develop, as he was well aware that the requirements for it would not be met for decades if not centuries after his death. Bolshevikism was an attempt to substitute brute force for time and technological development.

Ah, well I did not take that into account, so you may be right. But I'm speaking in more "natural" terms. Without, perhaps technological brainwashing or technologically guided development I don't think it can work. And even then, only if it somehow alters humans irrevocably.

Shupei

Kazmr wrote:By 'legitimate' leftist I was simply making the distinction between myself, who is legitimately on the far left politically in real life, and a sizable group of people on NS who roleplay as leftists but don't hold those views IRL :P Not trying to play the sectarian card there.

Thanks for the clarification, Kaz.

Doperland wrote:You MONSTER! Bombs are people too you know! Don't waste them on human shields. Use them on hospitals.

If you put an anti-aircraft gun on the roof of that hospital, I will bomb it, because you've negated its status as a protected place. :P

Samrajya bharatavarsa, White chrobatia, and Shupei

"Mmph mmph mmph mmph mmph? MMPH mmph. Mmph!" It takes time for the translators to decipher this declaration from His Majesty, the Rotund and Benevolent Tubbius of Treadwellia, but given the accompanying (and massive) buffet bar now set to the side for those in Lazarus, it appears to be something, loosely translated, as, "Why must people care for all other '-isms?' Tubbianism is certainly the most acceptable form of society! Eat!"

Samrajya bharatavarsa and Senpai noticed

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