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Forgotton Warriors wrote:Imperium Anglorum, what are we going to do about the large numbers of nations leaving, joining and CTE'ing in Europe, and should Europe take steps to protect its culture from globalism?

I can't take action against the people who join or leave. However, action with regard to the CTE'ing of nations in Europe is fundamentally a function of whether we keep them interested and happy in the game.

About globalism, I'm not entirely sure what you mean by that. Could you clarify what globalism, in this case, means so I can give you a better answer?

Imperium Anglorum wrote:I can't take action against the people who join or leave. However, action with regard to the CTE'ing of nations in Europe is fundamentally a function of whether we keep them interested and happy in the game.

About globalism, I'm not entirely sure what you mean by that. Could you clarify what globalism, in this case, means so I can give you a better answer?

Probably not the conventional definition of globalism, but I was meaning where new nations come in with their culture and drown out our own. E.g. Pie.

Silence is golden? Brevity in wit? Less is more?

Post by Civil nations alliance suppressed by Imperium Anglorum.

Civil nations alliance

Good day to you!
I am from the Civil Nations Alliance, and after some checks in your region, you are eligible to join the Civil Regions Alliance. Much like the Comintern, or the fascist alliance, except for neutral, strong minded regions such as yours. It will only be a factbook with certain regions being enlisted, so this is NOT A RECRUITMENT TELEGRAM. Signing up for the CRA will benefit all nations in this region as in any cases of disagreements or wars with regions outside the alliance, we shall send help in raids or attacks. Just simply ask your founder to telegram me if they would like to be pinned in the factbook. If not, then good day.

Explanation of Delegate's Actions — Above is a RMB recruiter. His post spammed our regional message bored. That is the reason why I suppressed the post and then proceeded to ban him from the region. I sent him this telegram.

'Don't spam our regional message board with recruitment messages. You'll probably get banned for spamming.'

I am a bit late (on vacation) but I just want to give a shoutout to our current WA delegate, Imperium Anglorum! (applause)

Celtia cymru

Outer Sparta wrote:I am a bit late (on vacation) but I just want to give a shoutout to our current WA delegate, Imperium Anglorum! (applause)

Thank you! :)

Forgotton Warriors wrote:Probably not the conventional definition of globalism, but I was meaning where new nations come in with their culture and drown out our own. E.g. Pie.

The question you asked was an important one. In many ways, our direction in the future depends on it. To grow our region back to the heights of the past, we must recruit new players from outside. Yet, to keep Europe as Europe, we must preserve and protect our unique regional culture. What this means is that we have to build an inclusive and supportive environment based on our own propensities while also assimilating people into it.

This focus on ourselves, however, does not mean that we have to abandon enfranchisement and democratic principles for those who arrive on our shores. That balance is why my proposed constitution requires nations to have high influence if they are to vote in the European Parliament. The balance between old and new is one which must be established carefully. I believe we must build a Europe around everyone, which means we must embrace the new while looking back to our roots for guidance. What we do is make globalism itself European.

Celtia cymru and Aweland

Imperium Anglorum wrote:The question you asked was an important one. In many ways, our direction in the future depends on it. To grow our region back to the heights of the past, we must recruit new players from outside. Yet, to keep Europe as Europe, we must preserve and protect our unique regional culture. What this means is that we have to build an inclusive and supportive environment based on our own propensities while also assimilating people into it.

This focus on ourselves, however, does not mean that we have to abandon enfranchisement and democratic principles for those who arrive on our shores. That balance is why my proposed constitution requires nations to have high influence if they are to vote in the European Parliament. The balance between old and new is one which must be established carefully. I believe we must build a Europe around everyone, which means we must embrace the new while looking back to our roots for guidance. What we do is make globalism itself European.

What do you mean with the high influence to vote in the European Parliament? Literal influence or metaphorical.

I'm liking the idea of making Globalism Europe's.

Celtia cymru

Forgotton Warriors wrote:What do you mean with the high influence to vote in the European Parliament? Literal influence or metaphorical.

In the polling system, there is an option of restricting the people who are allowed to vote in the poll to (1) residents, (2) WA members, (3) Natives, (4) High population, and (5) High influence. 'Residents' means that you can just make another nation to get another vote, so that's out. 'WA members' means that you can't just make more nations to get more votes, so that's in. But — you can get people from outside to swing the vote in a certain direction — also known as what you're concerned about. 'Natives' helps, but that only works if they have lived elsewhere for some time. 'High population' is irrelevant, since it just means that the player has played for some time. But 'High influence' means that they have stayed here for enough time to get endorsements and boost their influence. As such a massive region, the hardcoded requirements in the poll should not be problem, since according to the current poll already, practically everyone is above Medium and High influence, so I saw it as the best option.

Celtia cymru and Aweland

Imperium Anglorum wrote:In the polling system, there is an option of restricting the people who are allowed to vote in the poll to (1) residents, (2) WA members, (3) Natives, (4) High population, and (5) High influence. 'Residents' means that you can just make another nation to get another vote, so that's out. 'WA members' means that you can't just make more nations to get more votes, so that's in. But — you can get people from outside to swing the vote in a certain direction — also known as what you're concerned about. 'Natives' helps, but that only works if they have lived elsewhere for some time. 'High population' is irrelevant, since it just means that the player has played for some time. But 'High influence' means that they have stayed here for enough time to get endorsements and boost their influence. As such a massive region, the hardcoded requirements in the poll should not be problem, since according to the current poll already, practically everyone is above Medium and High influence, so I saw it as the best option.

I am on 93 influence, is that high enough influence to vote? Also, what sort of things shall we vote on? Decisions like the subsidisation proportion of Pie's thrown per capita, or WA resolutions, or embassies?

Celtia cymru

Forgotton Warriors wrote:I am on 93 influence, is that high enough influence to vote? Also, what sort of things shall we vote on? Decisions like the subsidisation proportion of Pie's thrown per capita, or WA resolutions, or embassies?

I'll have to check in with Technical for exact figures, in the morning (even I've got to sleep), but I'm pretty sure that is more than enough.

The purview of the European Parliament in my draft constitution is quite clear. I published it as a dispatch under this account. (Also, if other people want to write their own draft constitutions or comment on my discussion thread in Europe-game.eu, go straight ahead!)

The damned achaemenid

Foucaults garden wrote:Resist change!

🎼"All natural and technological
Processes proceed in such
a way that the availability of the
remaining energy decreases

In all energy exchanges, if no energy
enters or leaves an isolated system
the entropy of that system increases

Energy continuously flows from being
concentrated to becoming dispersed
spread out, wasted and useless

New energy cannot be
created and high-grade
energy is being destroyed

An economy based on endless
growth is unsustainable.

The fundamental laws of
thermodynamics will place fixed
limits on technological innovation
and human advancement

In an isolated system, the entropy
can only increase
A species set on endless
growth is unsustainable."🎶

- 2nd Law: Unsustainable by Muse

"The Only Thing That Is Constant Is Change"
- Heraclitus

"In this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes."
- Benjamin Franklin

☆To resist and isolate yourself from change only increases your entropy; developing an unsustainable growth in your instability as a system, and hastens your highly taxing degradation, and eventual demise; ie. in Nature you embrace change, and adapt, or you die!☆

Foucaults garden

^ That's a long response for my short comment. Somehow it reminds me of "Hot to do things with words".

Forgotton Warriors, Celtia cymru, and The damned achaemenid

The damned achaemenid wrote:Long meaningful change explanation

But isn't the Universe a closed system? And energy cannot be created nor destroyed, only transformed, so...

Celtia cymru, The Dark Norse, and The damned achaemenid

'[Draft] Constitution for Europe
Having no other place to put this Draft while being open for discussion by Europe's citizens, I suppose I will place it here. For those on this forum who no longer follow the actions of Europe, the NationStates region, I am its new Delegate, and I put out a call for a Constitutional convention.

The text is Hidden Content .'

Also, apart from all the bits of Hidden Content, the forums said they had cut ties with us? Is that true?

"Why, this is hell, nor am I out of it." What a staggering display of windbaggery this has become. Me, me, blah, blah, me, me, blah, blah. Brutal.

Forgotton Warriors, Dark Matter, The Dark Norse, and The damned achaemenid

As ever, Nukls, you are the voice of reason.

Melfar and Forgotton Warriors

Forgotton Warriors wrote:'[Draft] Constitution for Europe
Having no other place to put this Draft while being open for discussion by Europe's citizens, I suppose I will place it here. For those on this forum who no longer follow the actions of Europe, the NationStates region, I am its new Delegate, and I put out a call for a Constitutional convention.

The text is Hidden Content .'

Also, apart from all the bits of Hidden Content, the forums said they had cut ties with us? Is that true?

The forums have cut ties with is, but they do allow us to use their forums. In the mean time, since I don't want to spend the enormous effort (as of yet) to make a new set of forums.

Ugg. The link got turned into 'Hidden Content'. I'll put it in my next post (on mobile right now).

My Draft Constitution:

  1. Rights of European States

    1. From time immemorial, Europe has had no policy of an endorsement cap. Thus, no Delegate may at any time enforce a endorsement cap on any nation unless agreed upon for that nation by the European Parliament.

    2. No nation may be expelled for any reason except with the approval of Parliament. The only exception to this is if a state of emergency is called by the Delegate or the Founder, who may, during the state of emergency, take any actions necessary for the preservation of the state. Any actions taken during a state of emergency, must be accounted to the European Parliament.

    3. No regional authority may create a system which leads to internal political, economic, or social interference.

    4. No regional authority may dictate any of the personal settings of a nation.

    5. All European states shall have the right to compete for the Delegacy of Europe through endorsements.

    6. All European states shall have the right to challenge the interpretation of this Constitution and have their concerns heard by the Delegate of Europe, who must respond forthwith.

    7. All European states shall have the right to free speech, excluding spam (e.g. regional adverts or role-play in the message board), in accordance with the rules set by NationStates.

  2. Definitions

    1. Constituents, for the purposes of this document, are to be all nations of Europe who are also members of the World Assembly.

    2. Parliamentarians, for the purposes of this document, are to be all nations of Europe who are also members of the World Assembly as well as ’native’ and 'influential’, both as defined by the NationStates polling system.

  3. Parliament as Legislature

    1. The legislature of Europe shall be comprised of all Parliamentarians of Europe. It shall be presided over by the Delegate.

    2. To require that the resolutions passed by Parliament are important and not frivilous, the legislature must pass any laws by a margin greater than two-thirds. The Delegate cannot vote, but may veto any such laws.

    3. Laws proposed by the Founder and the Delegate may pass by a simple majority unless they are constitutional amendments.

    4. If the Delegate exercises his or her veto, the margin for passage is raised to four-fifths.

    5. Laws passed by the legislature must relate to the execution of the powers of the Delegacy or the rights, duties, and responsibilities of members of the government. They may also relate to the exercise of rights by non-native Europeans in embassy regions.

  4. Parliament as Judiciary

    1. The European Parliament shall also hear all trials in Europe as well as all disputes of the Constitution.

    2. Judicial decisions require a simple majority in favour.

    3. The judicial decisions of Parliament are to be implemented by the Delegate after the verification of due process.

    4. Constitutional decisions require a four-fifths majority. In the case that a majority is not reached, the Delegate may interpret the Constitution freely.

    5. All constitutional decisions must have context and standing arising out of a legitimate dispute.

  5. Delegate as Executive

    1. The Delegate is defined as the person who is holds the Delegacy of Europe by the endorsement count given by NationStates.

    2. A Delegate who refuses to follow this constitution is to be ejected by the founder.

    3. All powers given by the game to the Delegate are not to be infringed, except where Parliament as passed legislation otherwise.

    4. The Delegate may control the organisation and staffing of his or her own ministry.

    5. The Delegate may appoint others to exercise any power in his or her name unless those powers require the direct attention of the Delegate. Those appointed serve at the pleasure of the delegate.

    6. The Delegate may declare a state of emergency. During this time, he or she may rule by decree and exercise extra-constitutional powers. All actions must be approved by the European Parliament after the state of emergency ends.

  6. Delegate in the World Assembly

    1. The Delegate may at his or her pleasure, approve World Assembly proposals.

    2. The Delegate may stack voting at his or her pleasure. However, if the proposal is authored by a nation of Europe, Delegate must vote FOR, unless the public opinion of Europe is against the proposal, where the Delegate may again vote at his or her pleasure.

    3. Parliament may pass a law which mandates the Delegate’s particular final position.

  7. Delegate as Diplomat

    1. The Delegate may only accept embassy requests with the approval of the European Parliament.

    2. For the establishment of an embassy, the European Parliament must pass a motion which instructs the Delegate to start diplomatic relations.

    3. Parliament may legislate on the rights of the embassy regions in Europe.

    4. The neutrality of Europe is to be preserved.

  8. Founder Review

    1. The Founder may review any legislation or judicial decisions made by Parliament and demand a delaying action for a maximum of one week. The Founder may impose a Delegatory veto of the same type outlined in 3.c.

    2. The Founder may review any decisions reached by the Delegate and demand their reversal or delay for a maximum of one week.

  9. Amendment

    1. This Constitution may only be amended by decree of the Delegate with the supermajority consent of Parliament or the execution of a region-wide constituent referendum.

    2. All amendments come into force the day after promulgation.

    3. Should the Founder of Europe cease to exist, a constitutional convention will be called to replace this constitution and better preserve the security of Europe.



Please message me about comments. There is also a thread on the offsite forums for open discussion. Please note that as of 13 September 2015, the Constitution is placed on indefinite hold due to the well-thought and extremely strong arguments against it levied by the Opposition.
Read dispatch

Again, I'll encourage all of you to write your own draft constitutions if you feel like it.

Forgotton Warriors wrote:But isn't the Universe a closed system? And energy cannot be created nor destroyed, only transformed, so...

Yes, it means that the universe (per our current understanding of thermodynamics) will likely die of heat death. Fortunately, this is trillions of years from now, so we really don't need to care as of yet. :)

Forgotton Warriors, The damned achaemenid, and Aweland

With all due respect, Imp. Angl., don't you think that - counting all your comments since taking over "power" and also considering the considerable length of some of those entries that you are in fact spamming the RMB, acknowledging the relevance of some of your entries to a certain extent although.

I doubt that showing your presence and eagerness and knowledge (?) all the time is a good way to go forward.
Sometimes brevity is bliss and less is more, just to resume the words of Nukls and I really think he has a point there.

Outer prussia wrote:With all due respect, Imp. Angl., don't you think that - counting all your comments since taking over "power" and also considering the considerable length of some of those entries that you are in fact spamming the RMB, acknowledging the relevance of some of your entries to a certain extent although.

I doubt that showing your presence and eagerness and knowledge (?) all the time is a good way to go forward.
Sometimes brevity is bliss and less is more, just to resume the words of Nukls and I really think he has a point there.

Like there would be anything better on here if he didn't.

Dark Matter, The Dark Norse, and The damned achaemenid

Outer prussia wrote:I doubt that showing your presence and eagerness and knowledge (?) all the time is a good way to go forward.

I've been looking into means to lower my posting on the board (since I've reviewed the flags here as well and I certainly am doing a lot of it), but addressing public questions or criticism is something which I feel that I have to do. :/

This is why the last day's worth of my posts (since about 13:40 yesterday) has been just to do with the answering of queries (I can't much not do that without looking aloof) and announcement of important events (so people understand what I'm doing). In that spirit, however, I do encourage everyone to send me telegrams to avoid cluttering the board too much. Thanks for reminding me.

It's like water off a duck's back, isn't it?

Melfar, Outer prussia, Celtia cymru, The Dark Norse, and 1 otherThe damned achaemenid

Nukls-Andwicz wrote:It's like water off a duck's back, isn't it?

Yes. It's not like I'm going to explode just because someone disagrees with me or my actions. :P

Celtia cymru, The Dark Norse, The damned achaemenid, Slavic unite, and 1 otherAweland

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