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Christian Democrats wrote:62 minutes ago: Christian Democrats was reclassified from "Inoffensive Centrist Democracy" to "Left-Leaning College State".

Well, that's a first.

College of Cardinals State?

Wendish commonwealth wrote:College of Cardinals State?

I sincerely hope the College of Cardinals isn't "Left-Leaning!"

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Frustrated Franciscans wrote:I sincerely hope the College of Cardinals isn't "Left-Leaning!"

Me too.

Though from a certain point of view, especially if one is ignorant of history, the orthodox position may seem superficially "left".

Wendish commonwealth wrote:Though from a certain point of view, especially if one is ignorant of history, the orthodox position may seem superficially "left".

With the understanding of what we mean by "left" and "right," from a technical perspective, the notion of "right" and "left" are like choosing between the rock and the hard place. Both the far left (the progressive movement) and the far right (Austro-Libertarians) both significantly diverge from Catholic teaching but in different ways. For the "left" the answer is always the central government, a direct contradiction with the principle of subsidiarity. The Catholic position, for example, is employers should pay their workers a fair and living wage. The left position is GOVERNMENT should force a specific wage upon employers, no matter if it is even feasible. The right position is that workers are no different from machines and it is the goal of every employer to get his labor for as cheap as he can possibly get, (even though a person has both a soul and a family, which is not something a typewriter has).

The orthodox position rightly forms a third way because both God and the importance of man are key differences between it and any system developed after the Deist / Atheist philosophies of post Age of Enlightenment thinking.

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A bunch of morally bankrupt old feminists are doing their best to ensure a yes vote in Ireland's 'homosexual' marriage referendum.

Yes. It can only be the Association of Catholic Priests.
http://www.associationofcatholicpriests.ie/2015/03/marriage-equality-referendum-acp-statement/

"After a consultation with our members, the results of which indicated clearly a wide range of views, the Association of Catholic Priests has decided not to adopt a position in favour or against the Marriage Equality referendum."

Apparently, these priests haven't read even the Gospels, much less paid attention to centuries of Tradition. Matthew 19:4-5:

"Have you not read that from the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female' and said, 'For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh'?"

However, they decided not to voice opinion as a private organization. It isn't like this organization has real authority within Christ's body, but some people see priest slapped onto something and take it as gospel truth.

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Christian Democrats wrote:"After a consultation with our members, the results of which indicated clearly a wide range of views, the Association of Catholic Priests has decided not to adopt a position in favour or against the Marriage Equality referendum."

Apparently, these priests haven't read even the Gospels, much less paid attention to centuries of Tradition. Matthew 19:4-5:

"Have you not read that from the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female' and said, 'For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh'?"

James 1:8 might be applicable to the priests as well.

"A double minded man is unstable in all his ways."

A double minded man will still vote yes. NN you should turn up at their next love in and give them the mother of all scoldings.

Then there is Leo Varadakar. Another Loopy Leo.
Government minister declares himself 'homosexual' in run up to 'homosexual' marriage referendum.
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/leo-varadkar-i-am-a-gay-man-minister-says-1.2070189

If one ever needed clear evidence that 'homosexuality' is just made up drivel then look at this chancer scumbag politician outing himself in typical political self publicity. Predictably, the gender bending meeja gave him the adoration he calculated.

Leo how can you be sure you have just not met the right woman yet? Can a man really be such a misogynist?

Funny how the ones who stand for all sorts of gender merging are the ones engaging in the most fundamental and complete discrimination towards women.

I swear that I saw somewhere that Mark Shephard was the longest resident here with the exception of Saint Michael and Devoted Decons, but I couldn't find the records of such.

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Oire wrote:If one ever needed clear evidence that 'homosexuality' is just made up drivel then look at this chancer scumbag politician outing himself in typical political self publicity. Predictably, the gender bending meeja gave him the adoration he calculated.

I'm pretty sure that there exists an actual congenital inclination towards sodomy and attraction to the same sex (indeed, the science of it seems convincing). But then there's crap like this, where opportunists declare they have the same disease for political and social bennies in their circles. Of course, I can't really know if he's been secretly suppressing these urges, and has only now stopped - and if he did, then it's probably even more awful, since the prevalent mores of today convinced him that it's okay to be insane.

Wendish commonwealth wrote:I'm pretty sure that there exists an actual congenital inclination towards sodomy and attraction to the same sex (indeed, the science of it seems convincing).

The church, guided by the Holy Ghost, has not found it.
"Its (homosexuality) psychological genesis remains largely unexplained."
I think therefore it must not be real.

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Oire wrote:The church, guided by the Holy Ghost, has not found it.
"Its (homosexuality) psychological genesis remains largely unexplained."
I think therefore it must not be real.

Self-destructive evil is not real?

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(I can't seem to find any option to edit my previous post. Is such a thing not possible at all?)

I've looked up your quote (from CCC 2357) and I find it out of context. Canons 2357, 2358 and 2359 indicate the following:
a) that the sin of sodomy has existed across ages and cultures,
b) that it is wrong,
c) that some men and women do feel inclined towards sexual relations with the same sex,
d) that they can nonetheless suppress these urges and be chaste.

This suggests to me that homosexuality is real, not an imagined thing, but outside of being able to read someone's mind to ascertain the truth, it is not possible to determine with full certainty that any given individual is tempted this way, or that their decision to engage in sodomy is the result of some other sort of depravity (such as lust for power and status, for example).

Wendish commonwealth wrote:Self-destructive evil is not real?

Homosexual theology is not real :p

My quote stands on it's own feet.

Temptation to commit acts is one thing. But desires and the like do not redefine the two human sexes.

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Oire wrote:Homosexual theology is not real :p

What the hell is "homosexual theology"? Somehow, I feel better simply discovering that I don't know this. And likewise feel like I'm going to regret asking.

Oire wrote:Temptation to commit acts is one thing. But desires and the like do not redefine the two human sexes.

Of course.

I think people look at the problem from the wrong direction. There is a greater sin and that is the contraception mentality. Crisis Magazine had a good summary of it: (Sex has been divorced from children. Sex has been divorced from love. Love has been divorced from commitment. Marriage has been divorced from children. Children have been divorced from sex.) When we look at it in this light the situations with homosexuals are no different from a larger number of contraception dependent heterosexuals.

Everyone is called to chastity. Few people actually live it.

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I think most people in the West have forgotten why sex even exists in the first place.

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Wendish commonwealth wrote:What the hell is "homosexual theology"?

Exactly.

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The blessings of Good Friday be upon you all.

Matthaeus 27

46 et circa horam nonam clamavit Iesus voce magna dicens Heli Heli lema sabacthani hoc est Deus meus Deus meus ut quid dereliquisti me
47 quidam autem illic stantes et audientes dicebant Heliam vocat iste
48 et continuo currens unus ex eis acceptam spongiam implevit aceto et inposuit harundini et dabat ei bibere
49 ceteri vero dicebant sine videamus an veniat Helias liberans eum
50 Iesus autem iterum clamans voce magna emisit spiritum
51 et ecce velum templi scissum est in duas partes a summo usque deorsum et terra mota est et petrae scissae sunt
52 et monumenta aperta sunt et multa corpora sanctorum qui dormierant surrexerunt
53 et exeuntes de monumentis post resurrectionem eius venerunt in sanctam civitatem et apparuerunt multis
54 centurio autem et qui cum eo erant custodientes Iesum viso terraemotu et his quae fiebant timuerunt valde dicentes vere Dei Filius erat iste

Matthew 27

46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
47 Some of them that stood there, when they heard that, said, This man calleth for Elias.
48 And straightway one of them ran, and took a spunge, and filled it with vinegar, and put it on a reed, and gave him to drink.
49 The rest said, Let be, let us see whether Elias will come to save him.
50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.
51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
54 Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.

Wendish commonwealth wrote:What the hell is "homosexual theology"?

It's the theory or belief or whatever that we are a homosexual species. Gender is irrelevant. A relationship between two males is indifferent to one between a male and female.
That's what I will be in a couple of months!

Hello. I moved to Catholic because Nunnish Nations was the highest ranked nation in today's survey ("Best weather in the world") which also had my nation characteristic of Authoritarian Democracy.

I like good weather, and I like Pope Francis!

I should point out that I am not a Catholic, nor even a Christian. But if you let me park my nation here to avoid recruitment TGs I won't give you any trouble.

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Oire wrote:It's the theory or belief or whatever that we are a homosexual species. Gender is irrelevant. A relationship between two males is indifferent to one between a male and female.
That's what I will be in a couple of months!

That makes no sense.

Tell me about it!

John 20:1-9: http://usccb.org/bible/readings/040515.cfm

On the first day of the week, Mary of Magdala came to the tomb early in the morning, while it was still dark, and saw the stone removed from the tomb. So she ran and went to Simon Peter and to the other disciple whom Jesus loved, and told them, "They have taken the Lord from the tomb, and we don't know where they put him." So Peter and the other disciple went out and came to the tomb. They both ran, but the other disciple ran faster than Peter and arrived at the tomb first; he bent down and saw the burial cloths there, but did not go in. When Simon Peter arrived after him, he went into the tomb and saw the burial cloths there, and the cloth that had covered his head, not with the burial cloths but rolled up in a separate place. Then the other disciple also went in, the one who had arrived at the tomb first, and he saw and believed. For they did not yet understand the Scripture that he had to rise from the dead.

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