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Greetings Everyone, I am Most Honored to be here and wish to get to know everyone.

Hi there,

I'm Xyanth. This nation is mostly Capitalist-Libertarian in nature. While that is the general rule, it is not our religion. When the situation calls for it, our minds can be changed.

Xyanth wrote:Hi there,

I'm Xyanth. This nation is mostly Capitalist-Libertarian in nature. While that is the general rule, it is not our religion. When the situation calls for it, our minds can be changed.

Greetings, I understand perfectly the General Rule Completely and will do my Best for you All.

The risk of spreading the disease to the general population in the United States by bringing to a top private hospital is tiny - the hospital is the best place on Earth to contain this sickness.

If the disease does spread to the general population in the United States it will NOT be from a man in a moon suit being taken into a top hospital. It will be from someone nobody noticed (perhaps an illegal immigrant) who will bring in the disease without even knowing they are doing it.

That is exactly the argument I've been making.

Greetings to all the nations that chose to join us. Football season is firing and my job is extremely demanding right now. Hopefully I can have a new poll up by tomorrow evening.

Have a good weekend and do something fun.

Xyanth wrote:Greetings to all the nations that chose to join us. Football season is firing and my job is extremely demanding right now. Hopefully I can have a new poll up by tomorrow evening.

Have a good weekend and do something fun.

Okay Thanks, Same to you too.

Sorry about the delay. Work has been a riot this week. This week's poll is kind of close to me. In fact it is going on not too far from me.

More and more we are hearing about police officers harassing, badgering and giving unlawful orders to members of the press.[1] This brings us to Ferguson, MO where the police shooting of a black youth sparked several days of riots that are still on going.

Check out the raw video on this page: http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/local/2014/08/14/crews-hit-with-bean-bags-tear-gas/14042747/

It clearly shows a deliberate tear gas attack on a working news crew. In addition to that a local crew was ordered out of the area at gun point, a TV photographer has hit in the leg with shotgun fired bean bag and several other journalists have been arrested, hauled off to jail only to be released without being booked or charged.

So tell us what you think? Is this just an isolated incident or have things in this country deteriorated to point the government is using force on the media now?

Poll is up.

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[1] For this discussion we will define press as people working for a general distribution media outlet that actually get paid for what they write. Bloggers, Tweeters and Facebook trolls do not meet that standard.

I find myself on neither side in Ferguson - the police have indeed been militarised (a very bad thing), and the Mayor of Ferguson, the Governor of Missouri and the AG of Missouri are all corrupt Dems (trial lawyer shake down specialists), however the other side are mobs who are intent on burning the town (and the media are fanning the flames).

St Louis is a disaster area and the black people fleeing from it (to Ferguson) have, sadly, brought some of its problems with them - ironically the very Governor (Nixon) who has now sent in the National Guard (tanks, snipers, the works) has been fanning the flames of resentment for years (both as AG and as Governor) by telling people that none of the problems were their own fault - that it was all the fault of "big business" and if only he could win another big settlement (more money) all their problems would be over......

As for the press - there is a basic dishonesty about the msm.

They have a particular political point of view (basically pro rioter - they have shown that since the Watts riots in 1965 where they systematically smeared [lied about] Chief Parker and blamed everything on police brutality and not enough government welfare spending - and that was in the California of Governor Brown).

However, the media are not honest about their agenda (as they would have been in the 19th century - when newspapers openly and proudly argued for a point of view, on their news pages as well as the editorial page) they pretend to be "objective" and "scientific" (as taught by the "Schools of Journalism" - which did not exist in the 19th century when there was no special "caste" of journalists).

So people (such as police officers) get really, really angry with journalists - not so much for their political agenda, but for their dishonest pretence of not having one (their pretence of somehow being neutral between the police and their enemies - when, in reality, the msm are very much on the side of the rioters).

That does NOT justify what the police did - not at all, but it helps to understand the situation. When a policeman sees a journalist (of the msm) he sees another enemy, just one who is not going to attack him from the front (like the rioters) one who is going to stab him the BACK.

If there was real diversity in the media (diversity of OPINION - openly expressed) then things would be different.

As for Ferguson - its fate is sealed (whatever happens now), it will go like St Louis (the very place the black people now in it, fled from).

It is all very sad and depressing - as most black people (as recently as the 1950s) used to be conservative. There was no welfare culture, and criminal culture as there is now.

There is no genetic "racial" reason for this decay - it is a cultural revolution deliberately created by a mostly white elite (who think of black people as useful canon fodder against "capitalism") Cloward and Piven in action.

So what is the answer?

Xyanth wrote:Sorry about the delay. Work has been a riot this week. This week's poll is kind of close to me. In fact it is going on not too far from me.

More and more we are hearing about police officers harassing, badgering and giving unlawful orders to members of the press.[1] This brings us to Ferguson, MO where the police shooting of a black youth sparked several days of riots that are still on going.

Check out the raw video on this page: http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/local/2014/08/14/crews-hit-with-bean-bags-tear-gas/14042747/

It clearly shows a deliberate tear gas attack on a working news crew. In addition to that a local crew was ordered out of the area at gun point, a TV photographer has hit in the leg with shotgun fired bean bag and several other journalists have been arrested, hauled off to jail only to be released without being booked or charged.

So tell us what you think? Is this just an isolated incident or have things in this country deteriorated to point the government is using force on the media now?

Poll is up.

Here is what I can simply Put.

This Country has for Many Years (Along with about every other Country Out there), Has Been this Large, Massive, Ferocious War of Both Words and Violence against The People or simply Put "Civilians" And The Government's Law Enforcement. For Many Years, (Especially This Day and Time) Fierce Battles of Verbal and Physical Harm has Been Brought down against Both of these Two Large Groups, The Civilians and Law Enforcement. The Civilians have for many years have been Pushed around and Harassed, and Have Watched Both Friends, Family and Other Random People Across the Country Get Beaten or Even Killed By The Over Used Power Control of the Over Abusive Law Enforcement Officers (I mean Not ALL Of Them, There are a Few Good Officers Here and There if you watch and Observe Really Closely). I mean These Policemen can Literally (And It has Happened on many Terms in America's History) Go Around and Beat,Kill, or Simply Over Abuse Anyone They Want to without any Sort of Trouble (When It Comes with the Law and Government at there Side), Which this Easily Explains How Civilians have Obviously Grown Tired of All This and really Want something to be Done of Some kind and it has to Literally Be Done The Way that is Needed (I mean if they Don't get up and Say Something then the Government and Law Enforcement or Simply going to Do the Old "Sweep Everything Under The Rug and Never Be Spoken Again" Trick and Nothing Will Never Be Done then. So Really I Honestly Can't Really put down my Answer, I mean I really, And I REALLY "Detest" Cops or at Least the "Abusive" and "Cruel" Kind who Always Over Use There Authoritative "Capabilities" and What Not, But Either How Which way it goes, Whither its the Civilians or the Cops, If things don't Settle down for Good and Everyone can just Get Along and Go On with There Lives (Which I For A Simple Fact Know THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN IN ANY OF OUR LIFETIMES, I mean it's the Way Humans Just Generally Are), There Will Be a Serious, Large Scale, Bloody (And I Mean BLOODY) War that Will Envelope this Country and Everyone in it and it Will Be Pure Out Anarchy.

So Pretty Much, What I'm Trying to say is that I wish things would settle down a bit (Even Though I'm a 100% Sure that it will Not End without Someone or Somebody getting Killed or Severely Wounded), I just Honestly Want What's Best For Humanity and To Just for Once, Somehow Live a Life as Happy as they All Can. That's really the Best Way I Can Simply put it without getting all "Political" And What Not.

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[1] For this discussion we will define press as people working for a general distribution media outlet that actually get paid for what they write. Bloggers, Tweeters and Facebook trolls do not meet that standard.

Ok, you can detest the cops. I've seen what they put up with. I still cannot figure out why more of them do not snap. I couldn't do that job. It would be less then a week before some member of the public mouthed off to me and found themselves intubated with the night stick.

But what would you suggest? We elect people to make, change and repeal laws. Without the police it becomes survival of the fittest. We are talking Mad Max's Road Warrior universe here. Sounds like you can't live with them and you can't live without them. What are you going to do?

Xyanth wrote:Ok, you can detest the cops. I've seen what they put up with. I still cannot figure out why more of them do not snap. I couldn't do that job. It would be less then a week before some member of the public mouthed off to me and found themselves intubated with the night stick.

But what would you suggest? We elect people to make, change and repeal laws. Without the police it becomes survival of the fittest. We are talking Mad Max's Road Warrior universe here. Sounds like you can't live with them and you can't live without them. What are you going to do?

Well....That's the Problem its really hard for me to make a Easy, Simple Way of Expressing the Situation and All, But I completely Understand What You mean. If I can find an Easy way of explaining more on my answer I would, But right now I've Found myself in a Stalemate and am Unable to Explain further without ending up accidentally saying something that'll end up causing Chaos and Confusion, But I do Promise that I understand what you are saying though.

The quandary you find yourself in is simple. You want the safety and security of being able to drive to and from work, walk through the mall or even sit in your home home without being beaten, raped and robbed. The problem with that is there are people in this world that want to beat, rape and rob you. Some worse then others. A few worse then you can imagine.

A basic requirement to meet the threshold of security described above is having people that are willing to work for poor wages, go among the some worse then others (and even the worse then you can imagine) and risk their lives to take those bad actors off the streets.

But when one of those officers comes to the realization they are in mortal danger, or even danger of grave injury, and takes action to drop the bad actor rather then be killed or maimed themselves, there is something in your head that makes you believe the matter could have been handled in a non-lethal manner. Maybe in retrospect, there could have been. In the light of day, with time to think it through perhaps one or more things could have been done.

Real life is not like the cop shows. When shooting situation comes up, that means things have gone to Hell in a hand basket, usually in a matter of seconds. It is very rare the police officer in a shooting situation has time to carefully consider all options. An officer is trained to react in a certain way to certain situations. They do that so the officer doesn't have to take that time.

The reason is very basic. Officers that spend time second guessing themselves in a situation like that end up dead.

No one likes to see anyone killed. Even when the rabid dog is put down no one celebrates. But this is the trade off for living in a place where you do not have to fear robbery in your home on a routine basis.

I'm trying to figure out why you detest the cops. Did you get a ticket? You don't like the fact they tell you what to do? Been reading the Daily Kos too much? I don't get it.

Xyanth wrote:The quandary you find yourself in is simple. You want the safety and security of being able to drive to and from work, walk through the mall or even sit in your home home without being beaten, raped and robbed. The problem with that is there are people in this world that want to beat, rape and rob you. Some worse then others. A few worse then you can imagine.

A basic requirement to meet the threshold of security described above is having people that are willing to work for poor wages, go among the some worse then others (and even the worse then you can imagine) and risk their lives to take those bad actors off the streets.

But when one of those officers comes to the realization they are in mortal danger, or even danger of grave injury, and takes action to drop the bad actor rather then be killed or maimed themselves, there is something in your head that makes you believe the matter could have been handled in a non-lethal manner. Maybe in retrospect, there could have been. In the light of day, with time to think it through perhaps one or more things could have been done.
Real life is not like the cop shows. When shooting situation comes up, that means things have gone to Hell in a hand basket, usually in a matter of seconds. It is very rare the police officer in a shooting situation has time to carefully consider all options. An officer is trained to react in a certain way to certain situations. They do that so the officer doesn't have to take that time.

The reason is very basic. Officers that spend time second guessing themselves in a situation like that end up dead.

No one likes to see anyone killed. Even when the rabid dog is put down no one celebrates. But this is the trade off for living in a place where you do not have to fear robbery in your home on a routine basis.

I'm trying to figure out why you detest the cops. Did you get a ticket? You don't like the fact they tell you what to do? Been reading the Daily Kos too much? I don't get it.

Well, Honestly I didn't mean about Me Detesting" The Law Enforcement (I shouldn't have ever mentioned that word to begin with, I Just got mixed up in the Conversation), I think a better way of Putting it as "distrusting" them. You see my Family has had a Really large history of being somewhat (I mean Not All the Time) Mistreated or simply Overlooked By the Local Authorities and when there is Trouble and Needed, These Law Enforcement Personnel Won't Hardly do anything in reply Usually. But of Course Though I'm not like against Cops or anything like that, Because Yes, These Men and Women Do Risk their lives to serve and Protect and Uphold the Law Against Many of the Local Blood thirsty Criminals that are preying upon many of our happy citizens, And To top it all off, There have Been Many, Many Very Extraordinary, And Very Good Officers that were seen doing there actual best for the people and trying to help them in there time of need. I guess a good way of putting it as, I honestly don't mind being around officers and I know their just doing there job there's that, And then There are those kind that I simply Do not Trust.

I mean Really, All I want is for there to be some sort of Peaceful Negotiation Between these two Main Types of People and wish that everyone can simply Get Along and treat each Other Fairly and Equally, Well like human beings. I just really want what is best for Mankind,and want everyone to try and be happy and peaceful.

The one person I did not check is the Mayor - I checked out the Governor of Missouri, the AG of Missouri and the Chief Executive of St Louis County, but I just ASSUMED that the Mayor of Ferguson was a Democrat also (it appears that he is not - which may be why Governor Nixon had not even bothered to telephone him since the crises started).

I apologise for my error.

Chesopastan wrote:I mean Really, All I want is for there to be some sort of Peaceful Negotiation Between these two Main Types of People and wish that everyone can simply Get Along and treat each Other Fairly and Equally, Well like human beings. I just really want what is best for Mankind,and want everyone to try and be happy and peaceful.

Ok. I'm all in favor of fair and equal. I'm not seeing where there is a disparity of treatment here.

My guess is that anyone that just strong armed a liquor, beat the crap out of a cop, then came back for a second beating would be shot regardless of who that person is, what color or faith they may be.

It doesn't get much more equal then that.

Xyanth wrote:Ok. I'm all in favor of fair and equal. I'm not seeing where there is a disparity of treatment here.

My guess is that anyone that just strong armed a liquor, beat the crap out of a cop, then came back for a second beating would be shot regardless of who that person is, what color or faith they may be.

It doesn't get much more equal then that.

Yes I agree with You, Wither he was shot and killed or not that Boy was a Thug who simply thought he was tough, Robbing (While Pushing and Beating) some poor Helpless man who was literally half his size then walking down the street in the middle of the road and when the Police Officer Notices this and Tells him and his friend to get off the road, The boy responds by assaulting the Officer Brutally and Going for the Officer's Gun. Then After All this a Massive Amount of People are going around rioting and Protesting about his Death and wanting "Justice" and what not when in truth That Boy did (In Many Cases) deserved for what he got coming.

Another Most Shocking thing in all of this is that President Barack Obama Had sent THREE Of White House Representatives (Or whatever they were, All I know is that they were part of the Government) traveled to that Boy's (Well, More Like "Thug's" Then "Boy's" Really...) Funeral, I mean how Insane is That?

Chesopastan wrote:Another Most Shocking thing in all of this is that President Barack Obama Had sent THREE Of White House Representatives (Or whatever they were, All I know is that they were part of the Government) traveled to that Boy's (Well, More Like "Thug's" Then "Boy's" Really...) Funeral, I mean how Insane is That?

Tell me about it.

More then he sent to the funerals of police officers in the line of duty, soldiers killed in action or even the motorcycle cops killed working his motorcade.

Xyanth wrote:Tell me about it.

More then he sent to the funerals of police officers in the line of duty, soldiers killed in action or even the motorcycle cops killed working his motorcade.

Yeah, Sad....Most Sad Indeed....

Over the last few years numerous companies established off shore businesses and then moved their corporate headquarters off shore. These moves off shore are primarily due to the soaring US tax rates.

The most recent US business to start that move is Burger King. With its acquisition of Tim Horton's it begins the process to move their headquarters to Canada for that 15% tax rate.[1] That is going to reduce their corporate tax rate by almost 45%.

Obama and the Left call this immoral and unpatriotic. Business people and conservatives call it simple practical business.

Today's poll question is what do you think? Good business or treason?

The new poll is up.

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[1] http://www.newyorker.com/business/currency/burger-king-wants-deal-tim-hortons

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Happy Saturday!

The Ambassador to the CLFR wrote:Happy Saturday!

Same To You Too Comrade!

Ferguson is nothing to do with the Federal government - but the Federal monster is out of control and accepts no limits to its powers.

As for the Federal Corporation Tax - Milton Friedman argued that it was double taxation (as profits are taxes when they are paid out to shareholders), be that as it may the absurd level of the Federal Corporation Tax is driving business enterprises out of the United States.

And the insane level of Federal government regulations - which can send a company director to prison for what (in most countries) would be considered minor clerical errors.

Question for the left (including the so called "libertarian" left) - if corporations control the American government (as they do in your Hollywood view of the world) how come they are being taxed and regulated out of the United States?

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