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The imperial league

Kalterra wrote:Why the weird embassies?

Because fish.

Solorni, what's this I hear of a euthanasia legalization debate going on in Canada?

I do not know :o

Maybe I should read more Canadian news :P

Canada got issue 28?

That would be an interesting poll. :P Should Euthanasia be legal or no?

Snapper and Tuna! :D

Vhearun wrote:That would be an interesting poll. :P Should Euthanasia be legal or no?

Yes, although one of the nations here felt we should stay away from the really serious topics.

Illand wrote:Snapper and Tuna! :D

Tuna is soo heavenly <3

Solorni wrote:Yes, although one of the nations here felt we should stay away from the really serious topics.

Fair enough. I forget that serious topics can be taken seriously. :P

We need a new poll soon :O

though that idea of a poll about euthanazia could be interesting

Alrighty... it's a tough one though

everything is "tough" when you want to regard it as "tough"

Mhmm. I'm predicting lower responses simply because many people have conflicted views on it. With fish, it is pretty easy to formulate an opinion on them. But Euthanazia is one I think that many people struggle to come to terms with.

that might be as it is, but it isnt quite heavy to put it into a poll. "should euthanasia be legal?"> 'yea'-'nay'-'under circumstances'-'no idea'
it isnt that tough at all

Under circumstances is quite broad :P

New poll though! The last one had the most votes ever.

Are we talking about doctor assisted suicide or euthanasia in the veterinary sense where an animal is "put down" because recovery from the injuries would be nigh impossible?

In either case, I'm still for it and I will gladly offer why if anyone is interested in a little lively debate.

Well, I meant doctor assisted suicide.

Why are you for it? :)

Lady Marian wrote:Solorni, what's this I hear of a euthanasia legalization debate going on in Canada?

Solorni wrote:I do not know :o

Maybe I should read more Canadian news :P

I heard the same thing on the BBC. What are you people contemplating and will it lead to Soylent Green???

I look at from a libertarian or individualist point of view. Basically, their life is theirs and they should be able to do with it what they please regardless of what others may feel about their decisions (so long as their life choices do not interfere with or impede others' choices). If they want to take their life with the help of a doctor then so be it, I'm not going to let my feelings and emotions interfere with something they want to do in regards to their life. Further, most of these people turn to this option when they have a terminal and painful disease or injury. In other words, they want to die in comfort and on their own terms rather than sitting around in pain and anxiety waiting for those final painful moments to come. I can't blame them if they want to avoid dying a slow, painful and miserable death as I would want the same. If I am going to leave this world, I want to do so on my own terms rather than the terms of my family and friends. I want to die with dignity, pride and at least some comfort rather than to die in fear and pain. If that means having upset, distraught friends and family, then so be it and I hope that they will at least respect me for choosing to die with dignity and pride (the good kind of pride that is).

Anyways, my support for it is not so much based on facts and statistics, but more of an "If I were in their shoes, I would want the same" argument.

Far as I can see from his post, I would say that my view on Euthanasia is more or less equal to his ones. Let those people chose what they do with their lives, no matter which emotional "Problems" it may (or may not) cause to other people.

So why are people so opposed to it then?

A significant portion of the Canadian population supports the individual`s right to die with dignity, and at a time of their own choosing. Those who oppose tend to be on the religious-right, but their ranks are in sharp decline as Canada moves towards secularism, and their opinion is becoming increasingly irrelevant.
The debate has been ongoing since the 90`s with the case of Sue Rodriguez, who lost a close decision against Canada`s Supreme Court, defending her legal right to die on her own terms. There have been a few high-profile advocates among the terminally ill in the last few years, which has brought the subject back to the fore, and shown that public support has increased dramatically since then.
At present, Canada suffers under an oppressive right wing government that achieved power more as a result of an outmoded electoral system, and the mistakes of the previous government, than any great populist support. They have stifled the debate on this subject (along with gagging scientists, denying climate change, and a litany of other social offenses) but with an election pending in 2015 and their support below 30%, there will be a shift to a progressive majority as of 2016.
The debate will likely be reopened, and right to die legislation will likely be introduced incrementally over the next 10 years, starting with those suffering terminal illness who wish to end their lives on their own terms. This will come in the form of doctor-assisted suicide.
No Soylent Green in the works, but I did hear recently that one of the Scandinavian countries has taken to burning their dead as a source of hydro-electricity. Sounds like a promising source of renewable energy.

I'll write more about this when I'm home but I doubt we will see legislation on the right to die. The reason is because the Canadian parliament tends to avoid controversial social issues. Initiatives on abortions and gay marriages came not because of legislation but because of the supreme court. I thi.

I voted yes, based on real-life experiences with my dad.

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