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Barkargardet wrote:

I think the main argument for having tighter gun laws is to minimalise acts of violence based on sudden rage or passion, and to remove the accident risk. We have had this discussion before on the RMB, so this will be my only comment on this subject this time.
The evidence is ridiculously overwhelming: over 50 times a year in the US, a small child gets their hands on a gun and accidentally kills themselves or a sibling.
Yes, people who want a gun can get a gun, but a mentally instable person, not a hardened criminal, who can easily get a gun is more likely to do something drastic than if there were no guns around.
The country in Europe with the most relaxed gun laws is Switzerland. They also have the highest numer of gun related deaths in Europe. Both criminal and accident.
You are more likely to be killed during a burglary if you have a gun than if you don't. The burlar is more likely to have killed before than the one being robbed, and might feel more threatened and compelled to shoot if you come out with a gun.
Also, Australia had relaxed gun laws, and mass shootings, and a large part of the population was concerned that restrictions would infringe on their rights and that socialist dictatorship was bound to follow.
Restrictions were in place in 3 months, gun violence is way down and there have been no more mass shootings.
This is what legislation changes can do, even if a criminal can get a gun if they want to anyway.

I agree that gun control needs to be tightened to a point where only weapons which fire one bullet per trigger action, have stock magazines(or max 10-15 rounds depending on the weapon/ammunition used), training in proper use and safety of the weapon and strict background checks are required(Not an expert in what is required in the US but I think these are reasonable). Another restriction could be to implement license renewals as we have in Ireland. A lot of gun owners/sellers will protest that it is already a hard process to purchase weapons and that automatic(class 3) weapons are out of reach of most civillians and even more difficult to obtain. The problem is not the availability of guns itself, it is the culture surrounding them.
Ireland for example have what I'd call reasonable laws and our gun culture is languishing at best. Small arms and sports hunting rifles compared with the US' love of the AR-15, a semi-auto rifle which can hold up to 100 rounds(mainly 20-30). We have a gun death rate of about 1 in 86500 per year based on the most recent data I could find (2009-2012) and it's decreassing and I'd stake that most are gang on gang related deaths, however illegal firearms are becoming more prominant. Of those caught with illegal firearms only 1 in 15 are charged in court(our judicial system is a joke a times).

TL:DR
Tighter gun control alone won't fix the problem, it's American culture that also needs to change.
Ireland - High level of gun control, guns not ingrained into our culture, very low gun crime.
US - Low-High level of gun control depending on who you ask, guns ingrained into American culture, high rate of gun crime.
Correlation may not equal causation but focusing solely on guns hasn't worked in the past, why would it work now? The definition of insanity is the keep doing the same thing and expecting a different result.

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When nations die, they come here (or to one of the other 2 respawn-regions).
You can still return to your original region, via the usual method.

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The Iron Rebel wrote:

If anyone wants to know some of Balders monarchies dirty secrets, telegram me.

I want to know!

TIR is the true identity of Gossip Girl :P

Solorni wrote:

TIR is the true identity of Gossip Girl :P

I have no idea what/who either of the things are

But seeing as you haven't banned The Iro... ah, I just got who TIR is. Seeing as you haven't deleted the post, I'm guessing that your "dirty secrets" aren't that bad, so now I want to know.

Ah, so that means that Solorni is the Queen of Baldur in the musical sense?
And so the Prince of Baldur is also in the musical sense? Maybe it should be changed to "the artist formaly known as the prince of Baldur" (well, that's a bit of a mouthful, maybe shortening it to TAFKATPOB would be better).

Didn't we already have this poll, Freddie?

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