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The peoples confederacy of rusty things

Pantuxia wrote:Hey, if you're not an Anarchist, exactly why are you in this region.
And no, that is anarchy. Anarchy =/= Anarchism.

came to either a troll or recon

this nation resides in the Federation of Greater German Republics (looked around for about 5mins; creeepy militant neo-nazi vibe) I would suggest everybody WA up and endorse each other

Erect flatilus

The peoples confederacy of rusty things wrote:came to either a troll or recon
this nation resides in the Federation of Greater German Republics (looked around for about 5mins; creeepy militant neo-nazi vibe) I would suggest everybody WA up and endorse each other

That's what I thought.

I just allowed for people to work as weed-pickers.
Employment went down.
Ah yes, that makes total sense!

Natapoc

Pantuxia wrote:I just allowed for people to work as weed-pickers.
Employment went down.
Ah yes, that makes total sense!

Hopefully because it's owned by the pickers and thus they are not employees but owners ;)

Pantuxia

Loosely associated peoples

I just got four issues concerning ethnicity in a row. I'm all ethniced out

A nation of black sheep

I am a puppet of Pantuxia.

Can Anarcho-Capitalists co-operate with other Anarchists? I don't think so. True Anarchism advocates for the abolishment of private property. Mind you, Anarchism does not advocate for the abolishment of free enterprise, just private property. Anarcho-Capitalists are not fundamentally Anarchists, they are libertarians.

Do any of you have any good websites/forums for Anarchists?

Also, what do you think of Anonymous?

Pantuxia wrote:Also, what do you think of Anonymous?

The decentralized organizational model of Anonymous is an example of anarchist organization. Anonymous are simply computer users who wish to participate under the Anonymous name in (usually) online actions.

Because of this Anonymous is sometimes horrible, sometimes kind, sometimes oppressive, sometimes liberating. Sometimes racist, sometimes anti racist. Sometimes feminist, sometimes misogynist.

It depends entirely on who is participating and what their goals are.

YoriZ, Sierra Lyricalia, Pantuxia, and Erect flatilus

Pantuxia wrote:Can Anarcho-Capitalists co-operate with other Anarchists? I don't think so. True Anarchism advocates for the abolishment of private property. Mind you, Anarchism does not advocate for the abolishment of free enterprise, just private property. Anarcho-Capitalists are not fundamentally Anarchists, they are libertarians.

Anarcho-Capitalism is an oxymoron. It's a contradiction in terms.

But this does not mean that ancaps can't cooperate with Anarchists. As humans we can(and do) cooperate on many things even when we have opposing ideology.

Libertarian capitalists

Natapoc wrote:Anarcho-Capitalism is an oxymoron. It's a contradiction in terms.
But this does not mean that ancaps can't cooperate with Anarchists. As humans we can(and do) cooperate on many things even when we have opposing ideology.

It is not an oxymoron, We ancaps are the only true anarchists, read some rothbard you statist

Erect flatilus

Hey now lets all stay civil here. Why do you believe ancaps are the only 'real' anarchists?

Libertarian capitalists wrote:It is not an oxymoron, We ancaps are the only true anarchists, read some rothbard you statist

You repeat stuff that you read and can't think for yourself. Too much ancaps on this group.
You are the statist. You wanna privatize it, and recall it "voluntary government". There are many ou bring no alternative to the current world today.

Erect flatilus wrote:Hey now lets all stay civil here. Why do you believe ancaps are the only 'real' anarchists?

They think that the presence of a boss and a bunch of slave-laborers is due to a "voluntary contract". The contract between the boss and the starving is a sick joke.

Astrum Nigrum and Pantuxia

Libertarian capitalists wrote:It is not an oxymoron, We ancaps are the only true anarchists, read some rothbard you statist

I think it's already been established that you're a massive troll. Every type of anarchist except ancaps and some free market anarchists are real anarchists.

Neo-sovietnavia

Free outer eugenia

Read something other than Rothbard, you semi-literate imbecile. Maybe read up on the actual anarchist movement while you're at it.

Pantuxia and Erect flatilus

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The peoples confederacy of rusty things

Libertarian capitalists wrote:It is not an oxymoron, We ancaps are the only true anarchists, read some rothbard you statist

Didn't rothbard state that the term ancap was more or less tongue in cheek? Pure capitalism might be stateless but it is NOT anarchy, much the same as marxism, thought stateless, should never be construed as anarchy. A social hierarchy and anarchism are completely incompatible.

Astrum Nigrum and Pantuxia

Even stronger, Rothbard wrote a piece entitled 'Are Libertarians "Anarchists"?' where he traced the etymological roots of Anarchist philosophy, ultimately coming to the conclusion that "...we find that all of the current anarchists are irrational collectivists, and therefore at opposite poles from our position. That none of the proclaimed anarchist groups correspond to the libertarian position, that even the best of them have unrealistic and socialistic elements in their doctrines", and furthermore, "We must therefore conclude that we are not anarchists, and that those who call us anarchists are not on firm etymological ground, and are being completely unhistorical. On the other hand, it is clear that we are not archists either: we do not believe in establishing a tyrannical central authority that will coerce the noninvasive as well as the invasive. Perhaps, then, we could call ourselves by a new name: nonarchist."

Conclusion: anarcho-capitalism = nonarchism =/ anarchism?

Natapoc

Libertarian capitalists

Free outer eugenia wrote:Read something other than Rothbard, you semi-literate imbecile. Maybe read up on the actual anarchist movement while you're at it.

I read Hayek

Christian anarchism deals in social capital, which is unlimited. In capitalism, an unlimited resource is worth nothing. Hence, the two are incompatible (Luke 18:22-25). IDK about other anarchist schools.

If you like Hayek, I can recommend Ostrom.

Libertarian capitalists

YoriZ wrote:If you like Hayek, I can recommend Ostrom.

Are you ancap?

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