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Post by Natapoc suppressed by Perrais.
Welcome!
Post by Amoroff suppressed by Perrais.
Most of the state's actions during the 19th century were to give preferences to certain corporations over another, ergo bastardizing the idea of the free market in order to incentivize the Hamiltonian idea of "progressive industralization." An authentic free-market would not favor the bourgeois that similarly gained a lot of power during that time period, but work against it. The Jeffersonians knew that much and worked to prevent it - but ultimately caved in.
"I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country." -TJ
Also, the Gilded Age was not laissez-faire capitalism, and definitely not what market anarchists and market minarchists, and even many ancaps, wish to regress to. It was, for the proletariat, much better than both today and the 19th century as real wages increased sharply along with the standard of living, and liberal presidents did much in the power to cut subsidies. But it wasn't perfect.
The latter group that you are talking about aren't confused at all, they simply define capitalism differently. (As for the record, I am a left-libertarian minarchist, or left wing classical liberal, whichever works).
Post by Great dans suppressed by Perrais.
How do I turn a civil rights love fest to a anarchy.
Post by Anarchist free lands suppressed by Perrais.
Hello everyone! I'm new here with a new nation. Look forward to being part of this community.
Post by Sun and moon and stars suppressed by Perrais.
Welcome!
Post by Anarchist free lands suppressed by Perrais.
I have a question. When I created this nation it asked me what kind of government I wanted it to be, and I chose "anarchic", which I imagine should tell the game my nation is stateless. Yet my overview page talks about my "state-planned" economy lol. I take it NationStates is not very anarchist friendly with its game mechanics. Or is there some way to change this stuff through issues or settings?
Post by Zapatista chiapas suppressed by Perrais.
You are playing a game called NationStates. Your nation type is determined by how you answer your issues, but there's no getting away from the fundamental premise of the game, which is to build a state. Answering your issues like an anarchist is likely to create some kind of centrally planned bureaucratic nanny state.
Nations with the "Anarchy" classification are described as being warzone wastelands ruled by roving gangs like a cross between the worst areas of Somalia and The Road Warrior. They typically have high morality rates, poor health outcomes, low rates of intelligence and education and often unfettered capitalist policies as well.
Post by Anarchist free lands suppressed by Perrais.
I realize the name of the game and that the overwhelming majority of players would create states, but I assumed when I saw "anarchic" in the government type that it also allowed for stateless options. I thought you could build a nation that operates in the context of a statist government or one that operates on the principles of stateless anarchist organization; the name of the game just reflecting what most people would make. I realize that's not the case now.
[quote]Nations with the "Anarchy" classification are described as being warzone wastelands ruled by roving gangs like a cross between the worst areas of Somalia and [i]The Road Warrior[/i]. They typically have high morality rates, poor health outcomes, low rates of intelligence and education and often unfettered capitalist policies as well. [/quote]
I see. The developers of the game consider anarchy in the dictionary sense (chaos) and the not the philosophical, political sense. That's a shame.
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Post by Hegglesdom suppressed by Perrais.
The Black Riders has been raided following the demise of their leader ((script violations)). Anyone who is able should send a WA delegate to The Black Riders and endorse the current delegate Unitedgermanregions before TBR can mount a counter-attack!
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Post by Renewed dissonance suppressed by Perrais.
There is a certain level of interpretation involved. What do you consider a state? On the one hand, the Multitudinous Singularity is described as having an "enormous, liberal, socially-minded, outspoken government" with an outrageous tax rate. On the other, it has no funded military or law enforcement capacity. Is it, or is it not, a state?
It goes to the definition of "government." The Singular Multitude is of the general opinion that governance is generally desirable, even if particular modes (which rely upon the administration of violence) are not. The Singularity has also sought to incorporate the values, ideas, opinions and passions of all of its citizens (even if its current political freedoms rating does not reflect this, due to a recent and regrettable experiment...).
If those less enlightened choose to interpret this as "big government..." well, so be it. In the absence of the mechanisms of violence and arbitrary coercion (the military and law enforcement), coupled with the virtual absense of crime, the Singularity has achieved the pinnacle of governance without government.
Let the statists say what they will.
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Post by Natapoc suppressed by Perrais.
Bye!
Why are you not an anarchist? Everyone is born an anarchist... ;)
Post by The christian mafia suppressed by Perrais.
This is kind of late but it is true that we are all born free
Post by Sun and moon and stars suppressed by Perrais.
I tend to disagree.. A great many people -even today- are born to shackles. Some literarily, some figuratively. But shackles nonetheless.
Post by The christian mafia suppressed by Perrais.
That is true but what I mean is that we are all born with freedom of choice evn though some nations try to take that away like North Korea.
Post by Natapoc suppressed by Perrais.
All nations try to take it away, all those who seek to control others try to take it away.
We're all born anarchists because it takes years to convince us to respect property and authority. It takes humans years to learn to stop being anarchists. Some of us never fully learn ;)
Astrum Nigrum, Equilibrium131, and Marche noir
Post by The christian mafia suppressed by Perrais.
We were made to never back down unlike stupid governments and religions. Christianity is not a religion, us Christians know that Jesus was an Anarcho-Pacifist and also that man is corrupt even us as Anarchists, but we believe in not following anything but the right thing to do, like the Ten Commandments. I hope I didn't offend anyone.
Post by The christian mafia suppressed by Perrais.
And yes you are right that all nations take away our free will and our importance
Post by Christian Anarchists suppressed by Perrais.
Hey, that's my flag.
:-/
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