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Nationstates > English Assignment due tomorrow

Anollasia, Fephilonia, Evil Dictators Happyland, Farun, and 5 othersNeutrality united, New Fania, Ysherael, The golgariclone, and Stanla

Hello fellow allies, glad to be in here!

Anollasia, Siuts, and The united domains

Hi!

Heard that this region has defenders.Can i join

Anollasia, Creeptopia, The united domains, and The golgariclone

The united domains

Neutrality united wrote:I'm okay. Just hiding until my next class. How are you?

I'm fine too. I'm planning to make a new entry in my factbook, just don't know how to begin. It's regarding my army.

Epyris wrote:Hi!
Heard that this region has defenders.Can i join

Sure!

I have just been endorsed, can anyone tell me what that mean's? Thank you fellow 10k'rs

New Fania wrote:27% thats pretty good. darn i just activated sticky keys, i hate them, luckily, my laptop has a feature which allows me to right with my hands, using an onscreen keyboard.

Yuss! WA endorsements are now at the top 1%!

New Fania and Imperial dongers

Shreks swamp2 wrote:I have just been endorsed, can anyone tell me what that mean's? Thank you fellow 10k'rs

A TG has been sent to you explaining all.

[quote]Your cousin’s adored pet Phoenix has died.[/quote]

This issue is a lie. Phoenixes are always constantly reborn in Robloxica. They never truly die.

Neutrality united and New Fania

Siuts wrote:A TG has been sent to you explaining all.

i never got the TG can you send it again?

I have recently been confronted with the issue regarding freedom of speech. Far right wing fascist Nazis were planing to campaign their views in public. I said that they can do it. I think a civilized nation should be open to different opinions, but is this taking it too far? I would like to hear all of your guys opinions on this matter.

Neutrality united

Lunctland wrote:I have recently been confronted with the issue regarding freedom of speech. Far right wing fascist Nazis were planing to campaign their views in public. I said that they can do it. I think a civilized nation should be open to different opinions, but is this taking it too far? I would like to hear all of your guys opinions on this matter.

They should be allowed to, as it is covered under the basic freedoms of speech and peaceful assembly. However, if the protests turn into harassment or assault, they should be shut down immediately.

Anollasia, The united domains, and Neutrality united

Lunctland wrote:I have recently been confronted with the issue regarding freedom of speech. Far right wing fascist Nazis were planing to campaign their views in public. I said that they can do it. I think a civilized nation should be open to different opinions, but is this taking it too far? I would like to hear all of your guys opinions on this matter.

If you live in the first amendment and they doing it peacfully the i would say no you arnt taking it too far.

Alkasia wrote:They should be allowed to, as it is covered under the basic freedoms of speech and peaceful assembly. However, if the protests turn into harassment or assault, they should be shut down immediately.

Precisely how I would handle that as my country has very high political freedoms.

Shreks swamp2 wrote:If you live in the first amendment and they doing it peacfully the i would say no you arnt taking it too far.

Yes i completely agree with you. Peaceful protesting is fine, if it stays peaceful.

Eeumeria

Lunctland wrote:Yes i completely agree with you. Peaceful protesting is fine, if it stays peaceful.

IF IF IF it IS IS IS peaceful. Alot of protests in general go violent to an extent. so besides guards and SWAT members keeping people safe, how do you control this?

Duck nation yea

I plan to make duck's great again

Lunctland wrote:I have recently been confronted with the issue regarding freedom of speech. Far right wing fascist Nazis were planing to campaign their views in public. I said that they can do it. I think a civilized nation should be open to different opinions, but is this taking it too far? I would like to hear all of your guys opinions on this matter.

Nazis in particular and fascists in general have an ideology based on racial purity, rampant misogyny and hatred of those different from themselves usually using them as scapegoats for society's ills. Intellectuals tend to also catch flack as does higher education. They endorse corporate cronyism, reject human rights and tend to twine religion and government together rather than keep a separation of church and state.

They also reject the democratic process, freedom of the speech and freedom of the press. So ironically letting fascists have a say can in the end lead to no one but fascists having a say if they gain power.

Just so they can enforce that view the police and military often have supreme power.

So no, I do not let fascism exist (and yes those are all considered traits of fascism by historians). I find it runs counter to what I believe in and any democratic country should stand for.

Shreks swamp2

I should say national purity as its often expressed in hyper nationalism, but a lot of it often seems to boil down to racial purity in the end.

Neutrality united

Lunctland wrote:I have recently been confronted with the issue regarding freedom of speech. Far right wing fascist Nazis were planing to campaign their views in public. I said that they can do it. I think a civilized nation should be open to different opinions, but is this taking it too far? I would like to hear all of your guys opinions on this matter.

I'd allow them to do it... but have a bunch of pro-left, antifascism, anti-nazi groups rally at the same time, in the same place, with large numbers of police monitoring the situation.

Problem solved!

Neutrality united

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:I'd allow them to do it... but have a bunch of pro-left, antifascism, anti-nazi groups rally at the same time, in the same place, with large numbers of police monitoring the situation.
Problem solved!

I can see where you are coming from. That is a great idea.
I have noticed that in pretty much all developed countries that this Nazi campaign thing would not be legal. I know my opinion shouldn't be motivated by this, however surely the laws must have some truth behind them. If anyone disagrees with Nazi campaigning (without violence) and think it should be illegal, than I would appreciate your opinion.

Neutrality united

Hm... well hypocrisy leads to animosity. You can't say, everyone can speak their minds, you know, except if I don't like what you have to say. That creates conflict between the people and the government, as well as distrust.

Neutrality united wrote:Hm... well hypocrisy leads to animosity. You can't say, everyone can speak their minds, you know, except if I don't like what you have to say. That creates conflict between the people and the government, as well as distrust.

It's one of those conundrums of an open democracy. We really can't censor someone on free speech if it is to be free, but on the other hand allowing this school of thought sows the seeds for the destruction of the very institution we are trying to uphold.

Even then, even in the USA you have libel and slander laws where making harmful erroneous statements about a person can get you sued.

Side thought, but I've seen this issue about a Nazi rally many times, but never seen one regarding a communist rally. Why is that?

The golgariclone

160+ rmb messages.... thats not happening lol

i've been away too long, i've forgotten how nice this rmb is :)

Atanasov wrote:Hello fellow allies, glad to be in here!

Hello! good to see you here

Epyris wrote:Hi!
Heard that this region has defenders.Can i join

if you check out the off site forum(link and the region homepage) you can see instructions and qualifications to join (i'd start with posting to the forum and join the WA)

Saiure wrote:Nationstates > English Assignment due tomorrow

true

Duck nation yea wrote:I plan to make duck's great again

i do the same with the undead ;)

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:Yuss! WA endorsements are now at the top 1%!

i was at that lv in my main nation before i moved it for the defender cause

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