WA Delegate (non-executive): The People's Republic of Auhl (elected 20 days ago)
Embassies: The International, North Korea, The Red Fleet, Das Kommune, CIL, Freedom and Justice Alliance, Autonomous Peoples, Antifa, The Communist Internationale, Libcom, The MT Army, Congress of Armed Proletarian States, Labour and Socialist International, United Socialist Republics, Democratic Socialist Assembly, The Proletariat Coalition, and 5 others.Allied States of EuroIslanders, The Communist Region, Ivory Tower, The Cannabis Communists, and primitive communism.
Today's World Census Report
The Most Rebellious Youth in The Internationale
World Census observers counted the number of times their car stereo was stolen from outside fast food stores to determine which nations have relatively high levels of youth-related crime.
As a region, The Internationale is ranked 1,361st in the world for Most Rebellious Youth.
|21.||The Isocracy of Villeron||Civil Rights Lovefest||“Across the star-sea, we are still United.”|
|22.||The Lovely Potatislåda of Tajikijaditistan||Left-wing Utopia||“Why have stability when you can have anarchy?”|
|23.||The Ecovillages of Daun||Left-wing Utopia||“Om Mani Padme Hum”|
|24.||The Welfare Republic of Esethax||Liberal Democratic Socialists||“No Victory Without Sacrifice.”|
|25.||The Nice Socialist People of SomethingNice||Corrupt Dictatorship||“May we remember lost comrades”|
|26.||The People's Democracy of Fungjingi||Scandinavian Liberal Paradise||“Turn the world upside down.”|
|27.||The Free Land of New Elysian Fields||Liberal Democratic Socialists||“Nothing is yours. It is to use. It is to share. ”|
|28.||The Federation of Mazak||Democratic Socialists||“With Power, But Without It”|
|29.||The Democratic Commune of Populii||Left-wing Utopia||“Freedom, Equality, and Justice”|
|30.||The Democratic Socialist Union of Conferated Individuals||Left-wing Utopia||“You have nothing to lose but your chains”|
- 10 hours ago: The Revolutionary Tendency of LOLOMGWTF arrived from Leninist Russia.
- 10 hours ago: The Socialist Soviet Communes of Taak departed this region for Leninist Russia.
- 18 hours ago: The Community of Kropotkinite Kommune departed this region for Militant Communist Directorate.
- 19 hours ago: Embassy established between The Internationale and Primitive communism.
- 20 hours ago: The Community of Kropotkinite Kommune arrived from The Rejected Realms.
- 1 day 14 hours ago: The Communist Revolutionary of Alexandra Kollontai departed this region for Das Kommune.
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- 2 days 9 hours ago: The Federal Republic of Republic of Alderland arrived from Osiris.
The Internationale Regional Message Board
"Its hard to blame them...." in reference to the attempted ethonocide and abuse by the Russian and Russian speaking elite. But you know it's hard to blame them for that kind of abuse. What a joke.
Testy..... I'm just calling you out on your nonsense, 30% (non-russian speaking) is a huge part of the population (in that area)..chose to ignore it, that is on you., not me or my 'testiness'.
I don't agree to disagree. Unless I have no clear stance, but my stance on language discrimination and ethnocide is pretty clear, I'm against it.
"Its hard to blame them...." in reference to the attempted ethonocide and abuse by the Russian and Russian speaking elite. But you know it's hard to blame them for that kind of abuse. What a joke. " - Casita
I'm sorry, are we speaking about "oppressed Ukrainians in Russia" or the people of the Crimea who want to speak Russian being oppressed by their 'official' government in Kiev? Because while the majority of the Crimea speaks Russian they're not the oppressing nation here - the government in Kiev is, Ukraine proper is. If you want to bring this discussion around national liberation I'm more than happy to go that route, that is actually the case we're dealing with considering Donetsk has declared itself independent - so the whole "Russian elite" as you say is actually workers on barricades demanding their language be recognized, as well as their government and they're a little thuggish about it - that's not the Russian elite.
"I don't agree to disagree. Unless I have no clear stance, but my stance on language discrimination and ethnocide is pretty clear, I'm against it."
Oh well that's wonderful, good thing that's not the case here :)
I won't carry this discussion any further I think my points have been made very clear and fall in line with the majority of the world's working class, left wing organizations and communist parties perspectives. I don't think I need to hang around in discussion where the left perspective is considered "language discrimination and ethnocide" because that's the way you want to twist it, we can call Hamas "exterminating" Israel in the same way? That is the backwards position I'm engaging, "who is the oppressed - the workers and people armed by Russia who demand autonomy, language recognition and self determination or the Kiev government bent on destroying them supported by NATO?
For me its a non-issue, I'm surprised to see it even a discussion here, so I won't go on with it.
If you want to continue comrade Casita we can do so through telegram but I won't be putting up with your insults or twisting of truth ("advocated nationalism by abuse", "language discrimination and ethnocide", "calling you out on your nonsense") that's simply uncomradely and a misrepresentation of my point for the audience to win yourself support, its being testy and kind of low.
I make some good points, the world's left certainly think so (it's theirs) - so just respect that we can disagree and move on in friendship and peace. You make some good points about Russian imperialism, I can respect that but I think that they're lost on the issue of the Crimea.
Good discussion, I hope you can use friendlier language in the future and I'll reciprocate.
The rally for Gaza I attended yesterday.
I don't fall for those tricks comrade. I know you understand very well, that I was using examples to tie into a bigger picture.
What insults? Let's not turn this where it doesn't need to go, once again. It gets old.
You made it clear, 70% speaking and left the 30% as a non-issue for you. Not an insult when it is actually what you said. Then you went on to defend abuse, by calling it 'a lack of patients', so it must be okay to make people kiss flags and force people to speak russian, in the Ukraine, just to get a job. These are your thoughts. If you feel insulted, it is not me doing the insulting.
It's a good thing thats not the case here? Ha!
As for Crimea:
They are not lost on Crimea, when 30% do not speak Russian. What do you suppose that 30% should do? What should the Crimean Tartars do? Learn Russian or else?
Where I'm at there's a similar attitude to yours, and the result can be horrible for the "30%
At any rate, a dear comrade recommended this book:
The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists by Robert Tressell (read for free here) http://www.gutenberg.org/files/3608/3608-h/3608-h.htm
Excerpt from the preface:
"I designed to show the conditions relating from poverty and unemployment: to expose the futility of the measures taken to deal with them and to indicate what I believe to be the only real remedy, namely--Socialism. I intended to explain what Socialists understand by the word 'poverty': to define the Socialist theory of the causes of poverty, and to explain how Socialists propose to abolish poverty." - Tressell
I support Gaza, Gaza have very poor rockets, Israel have F-16's how is that fair?
Subcomadante Marcos and the EZLN have moved passed the hologram of Marcos. During this time Marcos made it clear that he doesn't want museums of his house, or any other monuments to be built in his image.
How many so called 'leaders' that claim to fight for the people have done the same? Maybe it's time for the left to consider this. Not the man himself, but the action.
Marcos is the kind of left I can get into. The Zapatistas are practical anarchism in action; what happens when socialism is stripped of authoritarian roots and given libertarian ones.