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The Internationale is an alliance of Socialists, Communists, Anarcho-Communist, Anarcho-syndicalists and Anarchists and other left-wing nations and communes.

The Internationale opposes the exploitation and oppression of the people by the forces of capitalism, imperialism and fascism.

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The Internationale contains 169 nations, the 63rd most in the world.

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The Most Cultured in The Internationale

After spending many tedious hours in coffee shops and concert halls, World Census experts have found the following nations to be the most cultured.

As a region, The Internationale is ranked 1,430th in the world for Most Cultured.

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Peru Passes a Packet of Neoliberal Reforms, Erodes Environmental Protections and Labor Rights

http://upsidedownworld.org/main/peru-archives-76/4956-peru-passes-a-packet-of-neoliberal-reforms-erodes-environmental-protections-and-labor-rights

Peru and Colombia: Community Self-Defense Against Megaminerķa

http://upsidedownworld.org/main/peru-archives-76/4961-peru-and-colombia-community-self-defense-against-megamineria

The Blissful Commune of Sentair wrote:It's illogical to determine how we act in the present based on whether it brings about the end of capitalism/states. Going on strike to fight for better wages doesn't bring down a capitalist state, but it is part of the struggle towards that point. In the same way, violent attacks against the state do not overthrow them, but they are part of the struggle.

I will just say here, the first example (going on strikes) is infinitely more effective when it comes to raising consciousness than isolated 'violent attacks against the state' when you don't have the masses behind you. You're probably not arguing that this is the case, but a war of attrition against the bourgeoisie by isolated terrorist attacks from a small group of workers is hardly going to bring down the entire system. That said, there are times when direct action is effective, but you need to be pretty confident that there will be enough people behind you to back you up. Otherwise, you'll just get killed or sent to prison, (where you won't be much good!), while not having made any real impact.

The Blissful Commune of Sentair wrote:What will we do until the revolution arises? Sit on our hands? Have complex theoretical debates about the best way to sit on our hands? And if this is the path we take, where will the revolution come from? Will we someday say: 'well we've sat on our hands for enough time now, and the public are a bit more sympathetic to us now, and the government have lost interest in generating propaganda against us now, I guess we will make a revolution!'. Furthermore, the struggle is the school of the revolution, it is where we learn how to fight, how to build, how to realise ourselves. We will learn little from just talking about actions exiled to a mythical future.

The second part you said is true, that the struggle is the school of the revolution. The thing is, being the trough of class consciousness we are in, violent insurrection is not appropriate for the time being (I should note that I am talking about the West, and my country in particular). Right now we have to do the 'boring' ground work, like intervening in strikes, participating in elections, etc. Actually, one illegal activity which would be appropriate now, is organising a mass non-payment
campaign against the water tax, which the government are introducing in Ireland. A campaign like that actually involves many workers, and can bring tangible benefits, which would raise confidence for further struggle.

The kind of things that would be ineffective now however, would be shooting the Prime Minister (though I'd hardly lose any sleep...), or blowing up company headquarters (even if you're sure there's no workers in them). There will need to be a revolutionary situation before we can physically overthrow the state through force. But I'm not saying that we simply wait for that moment. We have to take an active role in day-to-day, bread and butter struggles if we are to prove our credibility. A layer of people do become radicalised through such action, I've seen it happen.

The Blissful Commune of Sentair wrote:I should clarify that I'm not argueing that violence is the only way to go about the anticapitalist struggle, but just that it should not be ruled out because of instinctive aversion to violence from anyone but the state, and that where it is a useful tactic we should not hold back.

Of course. And I'm certainly not opposed to using violence, I'm just opposed to making tactical blunders. Ultimately, we need to advocate the creating of workers' militias, so that our class can defend itself against the state, and possibly fascist paramilitaries.

The Dictatorship of The Supreme Leader Aladeen wrote:Or, we can strike a peace agreement. That way it will be quicker and more permanent.

Sorry if I sounded ignorant to begin with, I just got involved in an argument with Libertatem stating that we shouldn't go to war at all. But, I am more than happy to help you guys with a peace treaty if there is one.

Then, they'll be happy that you are "not attacking them" and you'll be happy that it is safe and sound. At least in the ideal world, it would be.

You have my vote.

The Community of Casita wrote:Peace? HA!

It looks like TRF needs to push harder.

I'm offering a peace treaty. Not them. They are more than happy "to crush you guys" but I frankly disagree with that ideology.

It's simple. Just arrange a handover treaty and all will be solved. Just like China got Hong Kong to be handed over by the British in '97.

By the ways, I live in a 'country' that is owned by China. No, it isn't Taiwan.

Hello comrades, it's little old me, 4years. I thought I would place a puppet here to participate in debates and discussions as they occur and to assist in working more closely with the comrades here. I daresay that many of you know me by now either through NSG or through the various leftist regions I have been in.

The Commonwealth of Wise and knowledgeable 4years wrote:Hello comrades, it's little old me, 4years. I thought I would place a puppet here to participate in debates and discussions as they occur and to assist in working more closely with the comrades here. I daresay that many of you know me by now either through NSG or through the various leftist regions I have been in.

Can't say we've met but it's a pleasure. I look forward to seeing your debate in action.

Comrade Lemurian Outpost,

I think we mostly agree, and our differences lie more in perspective than principle. I agree with the point you are pressing about context -- that a tactic can prove to be effective in one situation but counter-productive in another. Though I don't think we see eye to eye on when violent tactics are effective.

What is a "real impact"? The impact of an action is not always external, for the party strategist to see. The act of resistance -- in transgression of normality, in breach of the dominant morality, breaking the boundaries of tyrannical everyday isolation, blasting away the deathly abyss of grey inauthenticity and meaningless, reconnecting your will and your power, confirming your own existence -- can be a revolution in itself for an individual. It is not the revolution that will overthrow our sick society, but it is the revolution that will save someone from their own undead survival, and the revolution that creates the sparks of the coming fire. I say this from my own heart, for others their reasoning may be different. The fiercely subjective and personal nature of this kind of liberation does not lessen it's importance nor it's impact, in my humble opinion.

Comrade... How about your economics policy? Politics without economics is ZERO.... Politics without economics you can't liberate every people from capitalism

The Dictatorship of The Supreme Leader Aladeen wrote:I'm offering a peace treaty. Not them. They are more than happy "to crush you guys" but I frankly disagree with that ideology.

It's simple. Just arrange a handover treaty and all will be solved. Just like China got Hong Kong to be handed over by the British in '97.

HA! Crush away

The best way is for TRF to turn up the war on REATO and Libertatem. Treat your regions just like the fash. Or you could hand over all the leftist region and libertatem gets nothing in return.

Someone remove this nation from TI. HR can go too.

This nation is threating TI and HR is backing it up.

I propose an immediate removal of HR and Aladeen.

No one should allow their nonsense here a second longer.

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