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By the way - the polls are very clear. If Mr Trump is the nominee - Hillary Clinton becomes President.

Hey, you guys are actually still around?

The Western Bloc of Neu Vetelo wrote:Hey, you guys are actually still around?


Yes still around.

Well, now its mathematically impossible for Cruz to get nomination. If Trump doesn't get nominated before Cleveland, they'll appoint Ryan or Romney in contested convention, while suing Cruz as ineligible for presidency.

The Confederation of Paul Marks wrote:By the way - the polls are very clear. If Mr Trump is the nominee - Hillary Clinton becomes President.

By the way Paul Marks, exactly what polls predict that Cruz would beat Hillary if nominated but Trump wouldn't?

Aaaand Trump takes fives states, with ALL counties and congressional districts. Primaries are pretty much over.

Nearly all of the polls Snifkowland.

As for "ineligible" - I am now getting somewhat irritated about the number of times I have having to point out the truth of this matter.

"Born in the USA" does not come from the Constitution of the United States - it is a song by Bruce Springsteen

Natural born citizen means (and has always meant) someone who is naturally born of a citizen - not adopted or naturalised.

It does NOT mean that an American woman can not go abroad for fear that her child will not be a "natural born citizen" - this was declared as long ago as 1790.

1790 - understand? Ditto all the judgements of judges around the nation (in every State it has come up) when these absurd "Birthers" crawl out from under stones.

George Romney was born in Mexico - this did not stop running for President in 1968, and John McCain was born in Panama - this did not stop him running for President in 2008.

Now enough of this stupid thinly disguised RACISM - "Born In The USA" has got nothing (nothing) to do with who can be elected and serve as President of the United States. It is a song by Bruce Springsteen - nothing more.

As for "appointed".

No one can nominated at the Convention who has not won at least eight States - that rule is not going to be changed. The delegates on the rules committee would have to vote to change the rule - and they will not (as most of them are Cruz or Trump supporters).

Only Cruz and Trump have won eight States.

And it is now "mathematically impossible" for John Kasich to win eight States.

Whether it will be Ted Cruz or Donald Trump will be decided in the election in Indiana (next week).

The idea that the "Primaries are pretty much over" is absurd.

If Raphael Edward Cruz wins in Indiana next week he will be the nominee - and he will be President of the United States (put MONEY on it Snifowoland - and I will cover your losses if you lose).

If Donald J. Trump wins in Indiana next week then he will be the nominee - and Hillary Clinton will be President of the United States.

Obviously a Reality Television star who has never held any office could not be President of the United States of America - the idea is an absurdity.

I am sorry to have to adopt a sharp tone here - but this "Donald Trump for President" stuff is got beyond a joke.

One might as well say "Donald Duck for President".

If need be Mr Trump could simply be arrested (for breaking various laws in his business dealings - which he, of course, has)

Rather hard to campaign from a prison cell.

Of course Mrs Clinton is also a crook - and just as much a Progressive as Donald Trump is.

But she is also a former United States Senator and former Secretary of State.

If there must be yet another Progressive President at least it should be someone who is qualified to stand for the office (Mr Trump is not - he has never held any position, not even town dog-catcher, he is just a person who inherited a lot of money from his father and appeals to the Reality Television watchers) - and someone who is open about being a Progressive.

So the Progressives get the blame when the economy gets the blame - which it will.

That should have read "when the economy collapses - which it will" - as either under the Progressive policies of Hillary Clinton or the Progressive policies of Donald Trump (essentially the same economic view) there will be no getting rid of Federal Government Departments or Federal regulation. And the fiscal and monetary situation is set for a collapse anyway.

Anyway to turn to other (but related) matters......

The American Philosophy of "Pragmatism" (that forced out the Scots American "Common Sense" School in the early 20th century) is really a denial of universal principles of objective truth.

It is the doctrine (found in Sorel and Mussolini) that one can have anything one wants - if one wants it hard enough and is prepared to do anything (no matter how bad) to get it.

As the President of France said in 1914 - the German Declaration of War (a pack of lies that had the French supposedly bombing Bavaria and so on) was not so much a Declaration of War upon France as a Declaration of War upon the universal principles of reason and justice themselves.

As a philosopher the President of France knew that the dominate School of thought in Germany (Historicism) de facto denied the very existence of universal principles of reason and justice.

Whether it is the Frenchman Sorel, the Italian Mussolini, the German General Lundendorff one is really dealing with the same thing - the denial of objective universal principles of reason.

The belief, instead, that one can have anything one wants - if one is prepared to smash and kill to "achieve" it.

Sadly much of the American public are saturated in Pragmatism.

"I want", "I want", "I want" is the only philosophy they know - the philosophy of a three year old (the level of thinking of Sorel or Mussolini). They do not want objective universal truth - they want nice "myths" that can be used to justify their most base desires.

The denial of objective reality - of principles of reasoning and morality.

It is a return to the level of thinking of the Roman Mob - who cheered Populari (such as Julius Caesar - the butcher of Gaul) who flung money at them, without bothering to ask themselves where these resources came from.

The Res Publica can not stand if this continues to be the level of the so much of the public.

And it is not a Republican versus Democrat thing - as I used myself to believe (I was WRONG).

Yes Hillary Clinton is a Populari who promises everything to everyone.

But so is Donald Trump - and see how so called "Republicans" (hardly Republican in the sense of Cato the Younger or Cicero) vote for this degenerate.

The are both "Pragmatists" in the American sense.

The philosophy of the Bill of Rights (both Federal and State level) is not one of Pragmatism. It is one of universal, objective, moral truth.

Thomas Reid rather than Sorel and his "myths".

Those States that still hold to the philosophy of universal and objective moral truths will, I suspect, have to seriously consider their position within a few years.

The Pragmatism of Babylon (New York) is leading to more than than economic bankruptcy - it is leading to cultural, economic and spiritual bankruptcy.

The Confederation of Paul Marks wrote:As for "ineligible" - I am now getting somewhat irritated about the number of times I have having to point out the truth of this matter.

Oh, I am pretty sure Cruz is eligible. But if he succeeds in preventing Trump from clinching those 1237 delegates, well, he is no longer useful for Paul Ryan, who'll sweep in on a white horse, vote to change the rules and become nominee.

The Confederation of Paul Marks wrote:It does NOT mean that an American woman can not go abroad for fear that her child will not be a "natural born citizen" - this was declared as long ago as 1790.

This did not stop anyone from questioning eligibility of Obama when it was suitable to question it, his mother was American citizen so he would be one too even if born in Kenya.
From any legal standpoint Cruz is natural born citizen. Like hell anyone with power cares about something silly as constitution.

The Confederation of Paul Marks wrote:No one can nominated at the Convention who has not won at least eight States - that rule is not going to be changed. The delegates on the rules committee would have to vote to change the rule - and they will not (as most of them are Cruz or Trump supporters).

After first ballot fails to provide nominee, those delegates are free to vote for whomever they want. They can be very openly and legally bribed. This is bound to affect their behaviour.

The Confederation of Paul Marks wrote:Obviously a Reality Television star who has never held any office could not be President of the United States of America - the idea is an absurdity.

The absurd idea that fits well with American society. Of course people will vote for entertainer. They would elect Oprah is she bothered to run.

The Confederation of Paul Marks wrote:If need be Mr Trump could simply be arrested (for breaking various laws in his business dealings - which he, of course, has)

Given how many people hate and fear him, if they've found something to charge him with, they would have. Of course he broke some laws, or he wouldn't be able succeed in crony capitalist America. They just can't find anything on him.

Scott Adams said it best: http://blog.dilbert.com/post/143479429146/and-then-there-were-two

Cruz named Fiorina as his VP pick. He must've lost his mind.

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