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Visit a region where you can gain the benefit of a small group of like minded players, but with no other restrictions, where your rights end at the tip of the other guy's nose and where smaller government is better government, and no government may be best of all.

Embassies: Red Army of the USSR, Union of Socialist Soviet Republics, USSF, The Red Fleet, Comintern Intervention Forces, Kapitalist Paradise, Benevolent Capitalism, The Brotherhood, Libertarian Capitalist Zone 716, The Mystical Council, Peoples Federation of Qandaristan, Dill Country, and Neoreaction.

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Libertarian contains 30 nations, the 380th most in the world.

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World Census financial experts assessed nations across a range of direct and indirect measures in order to determine which placed the lowest tax burden on their citizens.

As a region, libertarian is ranked 393rd in the world for Lowest Overall Tax Burden.

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21.The Colony of OuterrimDemocratic Socialists“Follow the moon”
22.The Republic of ZenolInoffensive Centrist Democracy“Zen”
23.The Holy Empire of ZarkaniarAuthoritarian Democracy“Live, Love, Prosper”
24.The Nomadic Peoples of TalborScandinavian Liberal Paradise“Sand is patient”
25.The Dominion of IlimanaqDemocratic Socialists“Whiskey Tango Foxtrot”
26.The Fiefdom of VermylLeft-wing Utopia“We will survive!”
27.The People's Republic of Al Qassim and RiyadhCorrupt Dictatorship“We shall take”
28.The New Ruling Class of Dogbert DominionCompulsory Consumerist State“Bah!”
29.The Libertarian Kingdom of FreiseLeft-Leaning College State“Come and take it”
30.The Dominion of InteralScandinavian Liberal Paradise“Choose wise”
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The Night-Watchman State of Milton Hayek wrote:You've lost the argument.

Wow. This is awesome. If I'd knew before that I can just declare that other person lost just like that, I'd save a lot of time arguing with people. It works way better than answering their points one by one. Thanks, I've learned something new. XOXOXOXOXO

Post self-deleted by Snifkowoland.

Because, when I make statement about majority of people supporting statism (while not claiming that their view is correct due to its popularity), I am collectivist a**hole who baselessly claims to speak for everyone. But when you make a statement about majority of people hating statism, well, you just speak hard irreffutable facts.

If they think there's no alternative to what is governing them, they go to polling booth based on misplaced ideals, and become disillusioned with it, they are not bother to investigate whet the alternatives may be, don't care much if who they are voting for is evil or not, and become politically apathetic. They are ok with it enough not to do anything about it.

Some of my father's cousins were gassed by the Nazis - but to say that Stalin and Marxism were a "lesser evil" is absurd. Stalin (and Lenin before him) had already murdered millions of people before Hitler even got started.

Also Hitler and Stalin were in close alliance for the first two years of the war - the National Socialists could not have successfully attacked British and French forces in the West without the support of Soviet natural resources.

As for 1945 - the West was in a position to crush the Soviets and prevent the coming to power of the Marxists in China in 1949 (the Mao regime murdered tens of millions - see the works of Frank Dikotter on this as well as "Mao: The Untold Story").

Sadly a very weak policy was followed - it was worse under Franklin Roosevelt (who may have been suffering from a brain tumour) than it was under Harry Truman - who at least drew the line against the Marxists in Western Europe and Korea.

But even Harry Truman does not deserve the good reputation he has been given.

Remember the vast advantages he had.

Not just an atomic monopoly - but economic strength that was utterly massive.

Half the entire economic out of the world was from the United States in the late 1940s - the Soviet Union was nothing in comparison.

Given the hand he was given - Harry Truman did not really play well.

China - the tens of millions murdered by the Mao regime (from his coming to power in the 1940s to the his death in the 1970s) is particularly unforgiveable.

For example the order to Chang in 1946 to end the Manchurian offensive (the last chance to defeat the Communists) and engage in "talks".

As for domestic elections.

As the Houston based libertarian Stephen K. (the anti IP man) says - who to vote for is easy.

"Who is going to cut my fu.... taxes?"

If there is a candidate who can win and will (you believe) cut taxes and government spending (and hopefully regulations also) then vote for them.

Government is massive - huge.

Someone who says there is no scope for a reduction in government is not just "not libertarian" - they are nuts.

Well, if you were a Jew with a choice between being gassed and not, choice is obvious.
Also, if you were business owner in 1930s Germany, choice also was obvious. Nazis turning you into mere manager of defacto state-owned company or Communists shooting you after stealing from you. Weimar establishment is unfairly blamed for supporting Nazis, since communists were fairly open in wanting to destroy them, and there wasn't real third option (althout SPD was probably less insane than either nazis or KPD).
Lesser evil is relative in this way. Although "evil" might be a bad term, since it implies moral superiority or inferiority. "Lesser threat" might be better choice of words, but it still depends who are you talking to.
Even if in longterm both choices are equally horrible. But being killed today or five years from now is no-brainer choice. Latter also gives you time to think of third option.
The thing is, most people who were choosing "lesser evil", could not know that without benefit of hindsight. They were often told Soviets were their allies, and will "totally" leave after Nazis are defeated. Even Poles who got invaded by them in 1939, suddenly forgot Communists still were their enemies. That's why, after it became obvious Soviets would win, they should've drop fighting nazis, and keep their strength for resisting future communist occupation. Instead they've bleed themselves in Warsaw uprising.

Study: Government Workers Make 78 Percent More Than Private Sector -

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The Amerikanisches Reich of ThinkPads wrote:Government Workers Make 78 Percent More

I'm imagining the outcry from public sector labor unions, social justice warriors, etc. had that figure been reversed.
Speaking of government employees:

The world contains 127,788 nations in 17,543 regions. Libertarian contains 30 nations, the 381st most in the world. The Armed Republic of Notonthemapistan is ranked 30th in libertarian and 127,314th in the world (bottom 0.4%) for Highest Police Ratios, scoring -560 on the Orwell Orderliness Index. As a region, libertarian is ranked 17,209th in the world (bottom 2%) for Highest Police Ratios.

24 nations (80%) were in the bottom 50%, 12 (40%) were in the bottom 10%, 10 (33.33%) were in the bottom 5%, and 4 (13.33%) were in the bottom 1%.

Well done!

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