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21.The Most Serene Republic of Zen BeatitudesWA MemberScandinavian Liberal Paradise“Here there be Dragons”
22.The Republic of RozynLeft-Leaning College State“Burning brightly.”
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25.The Kingdom of Esto-Verras IIIron Fist Consumerists“Sakkk ukksr fiaal meaain ”
26.The Federation of KelluumCapitalizt“Protect us from each other, not from our own choices.”
27.The Free Land of America-LibertariaAnarchy“Knock-knock, who's there? Not freedom b/c freedom rings”
28.The Matriarchy of NellyCorporate Bordello“Strength is beauty”
29.The Republic of DwarflandiaWA MemberFather Knows Best State“For a Better and Brighter Future”
30.The Principality of JB SayInoffensive Centrist Democracy“Production Creates Demand”
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Andrew Bolt is a far right wing imbecile whose job is to be a hateful dick to people. Which is unfortunate, because as a rule, aussies don't like people being dicks. He is a rabid fringe dweller whose racist and offensive crap is given airplay purely as an organ for big media ownership. He's been taken to court several times and his employer always pays the legal bill cause being a wanker is what he's paid to do. It's called slander.

We don't have this insatiable need to have guns for whatever reason either mate, so please don't go hoisting the American arguments on us. You can still own a rifle, there's a process for obtaining one- the availability of firearms is only involved in the American idea of freedom. The rest of the world does ok as a rule without involving lethal instruments in our social fabric, and seriously, if it means that cops feel the need to go around blowing unarmed people away on a daily basis for fear they have a weapon, you can keep that version to yourselves.

I'd also pint to the fact that every county has a constitution. Yours is not special though I know that's unfathomable to many Americans.

The US Constitution is special in that it our Bill of Rights is an acknowledgement of rights not a granting of them by governmental or monarchical fiat. The Soviet Union's constitution for example had freedom of the press except where it would interfere with national security and exercising that right was a threat to national security so no freedom of speech. As for guns I take a great deal of pride knowing that close to half of the world's legally owned small arms are in the hands of the American people, I believe that stat is via the UN and I not sure it's trustworthy. Yes, I really am proud that Americans are that heavily armed.

Paul Marks

And that's cool man, but I was a bit annoyed at being told some universal American brand of freedom and how as Australians, we fell short of that well armed ideal.
Pity you won't use them do defend against a corrupt government, as per the intention of the 2nd amendment.

It's been said that it's too late to fix the system, but too early to start shooting at the bastards. An analogy to American history might be it's 1760ish.

Zen Beatitudes

The Armed Republic of Notonthemapistan wrote:The US Constitution is special in that it our Bill of Rights is an acknowledgement of rights not a granting of them by governmental or monarchical fiat.


I beg to differ. Whatever the original intention the Bill of Rights is a now granting of rights as opposed to acknowledgement, that the US government may revoke or alter at any time like any other government in the world.

The people are beholden now to the government's whims, whatever it's persuasion, be it Republican or Democrat, unless they choose to stand up for their rights as originally enshrined in document.

The Patriot Act should be the heads-up that America is not as free as the people like to think it is.

Paul Marks and Zen Beatitudes

Happy 4th of July!!!!!

Paul Marks

Happy 4th!

Paul Marks

The Most Serene Republic of Zen Beatitudes wrote:Andrew Bolt is a far right wing imbecile whose job is to be a hateful dick to people. Which is unfortunate, because as a rule, aussies don't like people being dicks. He is a rabid fringe dweller whose racist and offensive crap is given airplay purely as an organ for big media ownership. He's been taken to court several times and his employer always pays the legal bill cause being a wanker is what he's paid to do. It's called slander.

We don't have this insatiable need to have guns for whatever reason either mate, so please don't go hoisting the American arguments on us. You can still own a rifle, there's a process for obtaining one- the availability of firearms is only involved in the American idea of freedom. The rest of the world does ok as a rule without involving lethal instruments in our social fabric, and seriously, if it means that cops feel the need to go around blowing unarmed people away on a daily basis for fear they have a weapon, you can keep that version to yourselves.

I'd also pint to the fact that every county has a constitution. Yours is not special though I know that's unfathomable to many Americans.


Actually I am not an American - I am not even what the Romans would have called an auxiliary, these days.

However, your stream of vicious insults directed at Mr Bolt rather proves my point.

Lethal weapons are needed to defend such things as Freedom of Speech - defend freedom against people such as yourself.

As for the right to keep and bear arms being an American invention - that is absurd idea.

Both in the Classical word (the old Greek city states - and the Roman Republic before the fall of the Republic and the establishment of disguised military dictatorship under the Emperors) and in the northern world (for example the old English Common Law) the right to keep and bear arms was the defining feature of a free man.

There used to be a British Bill of Rights - and Australians knew all about it. But that was long ago - the "education system" has done its work.

Americans should be warned - if each generation (each one) is not taught about liberty, it is lost. Even the memory of freedom is lost.

After all legal firearms used to just as common in Britain as in the United States and the British National Rifle Association was actually bigger than the American one (in spite of the smaller population of this island) - this was true as recently as 1914.

Now it is utterly and totally forgotten. Just as it is forgotten that what is now called "hate speech" (i.e. speech with which the establishment elite, rightly or wrongly, does not agree with) used to be lawful in Britain up till 1965.

If freedom was destroyed in the United States - future generations would be taught that it never existed.

After all past generations of Americans took for granted that money was gold and silver coins (the Constitution said so - and said that no State could make nothing else legal tender, and the Congress had the power to "coin money" not print it like the "not worth a Continental" of the old Continental Congress).

Then in 1933 the Federal government tore up contracts with gold clauses and stole the gold of private citizens.

And now most Americans do not even know it happened.

They are told "America went off the gold standard" - not "the government voided private contracts and stole the monetary gold of ordinary people".

If the right to keep and bear arms and freedom of speech were destroyed - a similar story would be told.

Something vague about a "necessary move for law and order" and a ban on "hate speech" (meaning dissent).

That is all future generations would be taught.

It will be a really Happy 4th of July when the Bill of Rights are respected, so us go through them.

1st Amendment - Freedom of Speech massively under attack in most universities (the P.C. or "Critical Theory" Social-Justice-Warrior stuff about "micro aggressions" and so on - when the real "aggression" is the movement itself and the support it gets from university structures that are partly supported by the taxpayers). And Freedom of Religion? Also under attack - even Christian bakers, and photographers and so on (although, oddly, not Muslim ones) face government demands to take part in ceremonies that they (on religious grounds) have no desire to take part in.

Not "just" a violation of religious liberty - but also SLAVERY (being made to do provide goods and services by the threat of force - in violation of the 13th Amendment).

The Second Amendment - the basis of a free person and a free society (both in Classical Civilisation and in Norse and Germanic societies - such as the old Common Law).

Under massive, and very well funded, attack from the international elite. With their vision of the future as a boot coming down upon the face of ordinary people - for ever.

Third Amendment - still holding (at the moment).

Forth Amendment - under attack constantly (as Senator Rand Paul correctly points out).

Fifth Amendment - local, State and Federal governments loot on a vast scale (using "asset seizure" laws - which "conservative" justices found constitutional, thus turning the Constitution on its head).

Sixth Amendment - "speedy" trial has never been defined (an advantage that Scots Law had over English Law - as Scots Law actually laid down time limits), however, the Federal "Justice" system is a horrific mess.

The Federal "Justice" system has been rightly called a "conviction machine" - where vast pressure is put on the accused to admit to something (to "make a deal") even if they have done nothing illegal. And the Federal government was NOT supposed to have a general "police power" any way. The vast network of Federal crimes and Federal punishments would have horrified the Founders.

Seventh Amendment - sadly the Civil Rights laws (and other regulations) also have made a nonsense of the forbidding of double jeopardy. One can be found innocent by a jury of a crime - and then be put on trial again (by the Federal government) for the same alleged action (just under one of the vague Federal statutes - a form of "law" none of the Founders would have recognised as law, not even Hamilton).

Eighth Amendment.

Both the States and the Federal government practice "telephone number" prison sentences (basically - think of a number, double it, then times by ten), often for "crimes" that the Founders would not even have considered crimes at all (remember the 18th Amendment made booze illegal, and the Amendment has been repealed, the "war on drugs" and so on has no Constitutional Amendment to back it).

Ninth Amendment.

The natural law (natural justice) philosophy that underpins the Constitution - the belief in universal principles of natural justice (of "hands off") not limited to time and place.

Laughed by the university crowd for more than a century - the establishment elite mock the very idea that there things the government must not do, especially if the government is trying to "help the poor" or some other bit of "Social Justice" (the sworn enemy of justice itself).

Tenth Amendment.

The establishment elite pretend that "common defence and general welfare" is not the PURPOSE of the specific powers that then follow in Article One, Section Eight.

They pretend there is a "general welfare spending power" - allowing the Federal government to spend anything it likes, and in any way, in order to "help people".

An idea that utterly destroys the very concept of LIMITED government.

There are still things to celebrate about the United States - but it is clear that the Bill of Rights is under savage attack from the international elite. And has been for a long time.

Honestly Paul, I'm not going to go through and rebut that point by point. Your desire to see liberty purely in terms of lethal defense is baffling. I appreciate your historical points and the role armed struggle plays in reordering social management structures, but to say that someone needs a gun to protect themselves from 'people like me' is beyond ridiculous mate. Seriously.

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