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WA Delegate: The Motors of Lincoln Sydney (elected 1 year 85 days ago)

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Welcome! This is a region conceived for the libertarian minded - the belief that liberty is the primary virtue of humanity and that the State should be minimized to the greatest possible extent.

Anyone who believes in individual free will is welcome. Here you'll find the cure for stateholm syndrome.

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Liberty is not a means to a political end. It is itself the highest political end.
- Lord Acton

The ideal Government of all reflective men, from Aristotle onward, is one which lets the individual alone – one which barely escapes being no government at all.
- H.L. Mencken

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The Local Government Confederacy of Minarchist States wrote:78 minutes ago: The Motors of Lincoln Sydney ejected and banned The 3rd Republic of Evil the Great from the region.
79 minutes ago: The Motors of Lincoln Sydney agreed to construct embassies with Coalition of Pussys.

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Evil was banned because he blocked me. He blocked me because I defended a girl that would not add him on Facebook.

He then wished the girl would die.

The Armed Republic of Quayle wrote:Here's something I don't get; if you're going to nationalize an industry, why don't you just offer to hire the most talented individuals from the corporations? It seems these government bureaucrats don't know how to properly run anything, but there are hundreds of people that do who already work in corporations. If the government could just drop the people that didn't do their job effectively in the national corporation and picked up the people that could, I think you could get the best of both worlds, in that you'd have the nationalized industry which tends to be cheaper and profit the government more, thus opening the possibility of lowering taxes, and at the same time it could run as efficiently as it did under the best corporations.

Incentives and risk are the problem for GOEs far more than employees.

The Armed Republic of Quayle wrote:Here's something I don't get; if you're going to nationalize an industry, why don't you just offer to hire the most talented individuals from the corporations? It seems these government bureaucrats don't know how to properly run anything, but there are hundreds of people that do who already work in corporations. If the government could just drop the people that didn't do their job effectively in the national corporation and picked up the people that could, I think you could get the best of both worlds, in that you'd have the nationalized industry which tends to be cheaper and profit the government more, thus opening the possibility of lowering taxes, and at the same time it could run as efficiently as it did under the best corporations.


who said they wouldn't? the better question is why doesn't the private sector do the same instead of pretending a manager that may very well know shít all about the field in reality is best?

The Voluntary Society of Sibirsky wrote:Evil was banned because he blocked me. He blocked me because I defended a girl that would not add him on Facebook.

He then wished the girl would die.


I see.

Curious: would consensus decision-making be a preferable alternative to representative democracy in a theoretical libertarian state?

Thoughts?

The People's Republic of Alyakia wrote:who said they wouldn't? the better question is why doesn't the private sector do the same instead of pretending a manager that may very well know shít all about the field in reality is best?

Exactly, I'm all for making new jobs by coming up with simple labour positions, but if you're going to put someone in the managerial position, at least make sure they can do the job they're ordering other people to do in the first place.

The Local Government Confederacy of Minarchist States wrote:Curious: would consensus decision-making be a preferable alternative to representative democracy in a theoretical libertarian state?

Thoughts?

I've personally been a bigger fan of direct democracy over representative, but I'd probably go with representative because consensus decision making might mean a lot of people, even the majority of people, may not get a say in politics unless they are a part of some council which is making the decision in the first place.

The Local Government Confederacy of Minarchist States wrote:Curious: would consensus decision-making be a preferable alternative to representative democracy in a theoretical libertarian state?

Thoughts?

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The Free Freedom Loving Land of Living Freedom Land wrote:>libertarian
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u wot u wot u wot

VOTE ON MY POLL!!!!

Quayle - big shots from the business world often hired to run government owned enterprises.

The honest ones either turn down the job (no matter how much money they are offered) or soon resign in disgust. The crooks take the money - and hold the jobs for years. It makes no difference - the problem with a state owned enterprise is it basic nature (for example that it does not go bankrupt if makes losses over years) not who runs it.

And formal private ownership is not always free enterprise either.

Let us say you have an industry where the big enterprises do not go bankrupt (really bankrupt - close their door) because they are bailed out, and where basic business practices are actually (behind closed doors) set by the government - "we want you to lend more money in inner city areas - and we will punish you if you do not".

There is such as industry - it is called "banking".

If these principles (no real bankruptcy and political direction of the enterprise) is made general then you have the "German form of socialism" (as Ludwig Von Mises called it) where the companies are formally privately owned, but they are not really privately owned - the "owners" are really just (highly paid) "shop managers".

This was done in the First World War ("War Socialism") in Germany and in the 1930s.

In theory companies remained privately owned - even the managers were often the same people who had been managers before.

But everything was politically directed.

After World War II the new (free market) economy minister was approached by various "businessmen".

"What is the government policy in this industry?"

We have no policy in any industry - make your own decisions.

"But what will happen if we make the wrong decisions?"

Then you will go bankrupt - your business will not longer exist and you will have to find a job.

This is what a real free market is about.

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