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WA Delegate: The Motors of Lincoln Sydney (elected 220 days ago)

Founder: The Federated Realms of Distruzio

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Welcome! This is a region conceived for the libertarian minded - the belief that liberty is the primary virtue of humanity and that the State should be minimized to the greatest possible extent.

Anyone who believes in individual free will is welcome. Here you'll find the cure for stateholm syndrome.

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Liberty is not a means to a political end. It is itself the highest political end.
- Lord Acton

The ideal Government of all reflective men, from Aristotle onward, is one which lets the individual alone one which barely escapes being no government at all.
- H.L. Mencken

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Regional Power: High

Laissez Faireholm contains 79 nations, the 142nd most in the world.

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The Rudest Citizens in Laissez Faireholm

World Census experts telephoned citizens from all nations at just before dinner time, in a study to determine which populations were the rudest.

As a region, Laissez Faireholm is ranked 1,543rd in the world for Rudest Citizens.

#NationWA CategoryMotto
31.The Protectorate of SmartmuffCorporate Bordello“Let The Free Market Decide”
32.The Republic of NadaLeft-Leaning College State“Delicate use of knife play always produce juice”
33.The Empire of SpewnswallAnarchy“Anarchy For Life”
34.The Galactic Confederacy of The Space PiratesCivil Rights Lovefest“The rougher the seas, the smoother we sail. Ahoy!”
35.The Federal Republic of CassariaAnarchy“It's YOUR life. Live free.”
36.The New Freedom Loving Land of Nova Freedom LandWA MemberAnarchy“New land of the brave and free!”
37.The Republic of Isles ArgentumCivil Rights Lovefest“Citizens United Through Liberty”
38.The Free Land of SegloniCapitalist Paradise“A Free Market is the Only Market”
39.The Empire of GramoniaInoffensive Centrist Democracy“FREE PUNCAKES FOR EVERYONE!!!”
40.The Minarchist States of TrezchoixInoffensive Centrist Democracy“Life,Liberty, Pursuit of happiness”
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The Robert Nozick of Arkolon wrote:Commies getting upset because they just realised they have a right to bodily sovereignty because... self-ownership. Lots of screaming, lots of regret. I just feel smug, and now that it's 3am, I feel kind of tired, too.

Honestly, that's not what the people you were debating were "upset" about.

The People's Republic of Mirule wrote:Honestly, that's not what the people you were debating were "upset" about.

It is. What else was it? Are you even in the thread?

The Robert Nozick of Arkolon wrote:It is. What else was it? Are you even in the thread?

Well for a start I don't think "upset" is a good word for it; people objected to your point of view, sure. Second, the way you phrased your message above makes it sound as though you think you've baffled them with the brilliance and truth of your posts, which isn't actually the case I'm afraid. Nobody is angry (maybe leaving wind-up merchants like Mavorpen aside, because some people just have a problem no matter what) because they've come to a sudden realisation - most people that are objecting are doing so because they disagree with your posts, for a number of reasons. Thirdly, I have read the entire thread but haven't commented. Trots has basically summed up my opinions, but he's a far better writer than me.

If I've read you incorrectly and you're not as arrogant as I think you came across here, then I apologise.

The People's Republic of Mirule wrote:Well for a start I don't think "upset" is a good word for it; people objected to your point of view, sure. Second, the way you phrased your message above makes it sound as though you think you've baffled them with the brilliance and truth of your posts, which isn't actually the case I'm afraid.

Of course it was hyperbolic. I'm no fan of emoticons, so Poe's law would have to apply here. I think that's the correct law, at least. That's the smiley one, right?

The People's Republic of Mirule wrote:Nobody is angry (maybe leaving wind-up merchants like Mavorpen aside, because some people just have a problem no matter what) because they've come to a sudden realisation - most people that are objecting are doing so because they disagree with your posts, for a number of reasons.

4years and Trotskylvania; 4years misunderstood what "self-ownership" is and Trotskylvania assumed that slavery is acceptable as a result, which is a sentiment I have since retracted in favour of an exception that I have since justified. He has yet to come back. Conscentia agreed with me that they own themselves, and Zottistan is getting there. The rest feel as if "God" owns them, and the final quasi-third believe that they own themselves. 4years and Trot are in a considerable minority.

The People's Republic of Mirule wrote:Thirdly, I have read the entire thread but haven't commented. Trots has basically summed up my opinions, but he's a far better writer than me.

I'm still waiting on Trot to answer my post, so you're very welcome to post your beliefs in the thread meanwhile.

The People's Republic of Mirule wrote:If I've read you incorrectly and you're not as arrogant as I think you came across here, then I apologise.

Apology accepted.

It's very interesting how differently two people can see and read the same thread.

I won't be dropping in, thanks, it feels like I'd just be repeating what has already been said. Besides, most debates on NS feel like the participants are talking past one another, with more concern for their ego than the subject being discussed.

Needless to say we disagree on essentially every basic principle you can think of, but that doesn't stop us being friends! ;)

If ownership is the claim of non reasoning matter by a reasoning mind, then slavery is a fundamental error (to put the matter politely) - as another mind can not claim (occupy) the body, when there is already a mind (a human person - an "I") already there.

The Robert Nozick of Arkolon wrote:Of course it was hyperbolic. I'm no fan of emoticons,

You know who's a fan of emoticons?

:sibirsky:

our pop. is dipping

The People's Republic of Mirule wrote:It's very interesting how differently two people can see and read the same thread.

I won't be dropping in, thanks, it feels like I'd just be repeating what has already been said. Besides, most debates on NS feel like the participants are talking past one another, with more concern for their ego than the subject being discussed.

Needless to say we disagree on essentially every basic principle you can think of, but that doesn't stop us being friends! ;)

Sure, mate.

The Allied States of James McCosh wrote:If ownership is the claim of non reasoning matter by a reasoning mind, then slavery is a fundamental error (to put the matter politely) - as another mind can not claim (occupy) the body, when there is already a mind (a human person - an "I") already there.

Quite correct, thank you.

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