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WA Delegate: The United Utopia of Untspah (elected )

Founder: Makrtopia

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Most Nations: 137th Most World Assembly Endorsements: 150th Most Influential: 500th+2
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It's not a bug, it's a feature!

A blossoming empire full of various Equestrian nations, this region seeks peace and acceptance. Originally founded by Makrtopia, and currently managed by its major World Assembly delegate, The United Utopia of Untspah, Equestria invites and welcomes with open arms anyone wanting a new home or second chance.

To new nations: Please, be certain to join the World Assembly, and once you have, don't forget to endorse our regional delegate. Not only does this help strengthen them, it helps prevent hostile take-overs and invasions. And we don't want those to happen again, do we?

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Embassies: Pony Lands, Winterfell, Unified Skaian Syndicate of Rulers, The Derpy Dominion, Freedom and Justice Alliance, Farkistan, Crystal Empire, Terra Magnificum, Avadam Inn, The Dirt Alliance, The Galactic Federacy, Sagittarius Arm, Social Enterprise of The Gulf, The Federated Union of Stars, Serenity, WAYNE 2016, and 13 others.Hollow Point, Mahtomedi, The Empire of Friendship, The Brohoof Union, Scotland and Northern Ireland, The Lunar Islands, International Freedom Union, EC 320, Sandbox, Telltale Community, Krillin, Nationalist Commonwealth of Free Regions, and The Delta Librae Galaxy.

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Equestria contains 106 nations, the 137th most in the world.

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The Most Ignorant Citizens in Equestria

The World Census studied which nations seemed to have the greatest numbers of citizens that fell into the categories "ignorant," "oblivious," or "just plain dumb."

As a region, Equestria is ranked 11,779th in the world for Most Ignorant Citizens.

NationWA CategoryMotto
11.The Kingdom of DragonfartPsychotic Dictatorship“Pardon me!”
12.The Dominion of QassiarsukFather Knows Best State“Whiskey Tango Foxtrot”
13.The Honest Caliphate of AtharelliaCorrupt Dictatorship“Buy some apples!”
14.The Most Serene Republic of Lucia MaybellPsychotic Dictatorship“Everything is really what you make it to be”
15.The Republic of HoofingtonFather Knows Best State“Derp”
16.The Grand Galloping Giftshop of Celestial BearingsCorrupt Dictatorship“Be aware of who you are.”
17.The Last Remnants of Our Town RestoredIron Fist Consumerists“You can't have a nightmare if you never dream.”
18.The Empire of Greater CirraPsychotic Dictatorship“Ante Legionem nihil erat, et nihil erit post Legionem”
19.The Commonwealth of Youkai StarsCorporate Bordello“ゆっくりしていってね!!!”
20.The Protectorate of OwltanCorrupt Dictatorship“United we stand!”
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The Last Remnants of Our Town Restored wrote:Chrysalis acted very intentionally, acting in a way that would seem odd to Twilight - who knew her best of all - but could be dismissed as wedding stress to anyone else.

The Last Remnants of Our Town Restored wrote:She only acted out-of-character when Twilight was around,

Pure speculation. It's an interesting theory, but I really see nothing in the episodes supporting it over the more obvious assumption that her act slipped because, even for a species of born magical impersonators, pretending to be someone else, especially for days on end, is hard. Chrysalis and Cadence have very different personalities, and some of her real personality is going to slip through. She only kept Shining Armor fooled by casting mind control spells on him. Other ponies didn't know her well enough to care.

Also, the Chrysalis probably was stressed-out, just not for the reasons Shining thought she was. Being deep in enemy territory, constantly interacting with several of the most powerful individuals in Equestria and worrying you might get found out, wondering how the invasion will go when the big day comes? Yeah, that's stressful.

At the very least Chrysalis is unlikely to have deliberately faked not knowing the "ladybugs awake" dance, and the episode was written to give the impression that her other slip-ups were in the same category.

The Last Remnants of Our Town Restored wrote:Logically, and through extensive research, she'd know that to use the Elements all of them need to be in operation. How do you take them out of commission? Separate one of the bearers from her friends; specifically Twilight.

Clearly not an effective tactic, since Twilight easily escaped and was reunited with her friends by the time that the changeling army broke through the shield (which is around when the characters would have realized Chrysalis was evil if she were a better actor). The six of them were together when fighting to reach the Elements of Harmony, and it wasn't being split up that stopped them.

The Last Remnants of Our Town Restored wrote:I don't know if you're talking about being out of character, or revealing herself when Twilight and the real Cadance stormed into the room.

No, I mean that when Twilight broke down in tears and apologized, Chrysalis could have simply "forgiven" her, and Twilight would have accepted her as the real Cadence from then on.

Instead, she banished Twilight to somewhere that didn't really hold her back but did confirm her suspicions were correct after all, and gave Twilight direct access to the one thing most helpful in figuring out what's going on and proving it to the others - the real Cadence - that she would be unlikely to have been able to find otherwise (unless Cadence were less of an idiot and made her way out of that cave by herself days ago).

Commander Firebrand wrote:Notice how her taunting caused Twilight to attack the real Cadance out of rage. What if that was intentional?

Yeah, it does seem like it was. So what? That's in the same vein as villains who keep putting heroes in deathtraps rather than just offing them already.

Even if it could have paid off in terms of somehow crushing Twilight's spirit (doesn't she have a more direct way of dealing with her?), it was a longshot gamble that banked on things going very exactly according to expectations, and which could easily backfire otherwise - which, surprise surprise, it did.

The Last Remnants of Our Town Restored wrote:Chrysalis knew that Twilight would be hesitant to harm innocents.

So what? She can levitate an Ursa Minor and return it to its mother unharmed. Getting past three civilians should be trivial. Twilight could have done it herself, but Cadence's way was funnier.

And before you point out that levitating them out of the way would only help until she shut off her telekinesis: well, sure, but that also applies to the bouquet, which should only have distracted them briefly before they sorted out who caught it and were then able to return to their previous task. That's before considering the numerous other tricks Twilight can do, including mind control magic of her own.

The Last Remnants of Our Town Restored wrote:It really speaks leagues of the writers when they create a villain plan so perfect that they wrote themselves into a corner, requiring a deus ex machina to get them out.

Nah. It's really more a classic case of villains act like idiots, heroes act like idiots, and which idiots win ends up coming down to dumb luck and contrivance.

Chrysalis had some good points in her plan, certainly - the best was probably distracting the Royal Guard getting them pointed in the wrong direction by deliberately leaking rumors of an outside attack when the real threat was already inside the shield with free access to the Princesses and the Captain of the Royal Guard - but it wasn't perfect by any means. Just for one, note how she didn't expect to win against Celestia, but still failed to avoid a confrontation.

Now Sombra, that's one villain who did pretty much everything right. People rag on him for having little character, but that's probably what saved him. He never did much of anything at all and so he didn't have the opportunity to make mistakes.

He hid the Crystal Heart behind layers upon layers of traps, where solving one trap just leads right into the next. (Finally got that door to sit still? Okay, now you won't be expecting the next trap when you try to open it.) It was hidden in a place which ponies were unlikely to stumble across by accident (it was in the last place anypony would want to go anyway, and even once there required casting specific magic to notice the entrance), and which they were unable to look for deliberately (he destroyed all records of what the Crystal Heart does or where it could be, and erased everypony's memories for good measure). And on the off-chance that some exceptionally-skilled pony makes it through all that, she gets trapped in a cage that can't be escaped even with magic (it just teleports you back inside!), and an alarm alerts him of the intrusion. And by planning for every eventuality in advance, he almost won, without even having to lift a hoof.

The only reason he lost was because he had previously been beaten by Celestia and Luna, followed by being displaced for a thousand years, leaving the situation quite far removed from what his original plans were designed for - and yet they still almost worked.

(Meanwhile, Celestia in those episodes was a total idiot.)

The Last Remnants of Our Town Restored wrote:And calling them "fight scenes" is classifying them as something they're not. They're scuffles. Kerfuffles. Quarrels.

What about Over a Barrel? That was an actual war. With nonlethal weapons, but still pretty serious in the context of a children's show that can't show anyone actually dying.

Or Dragon Quest? That was an actual life-or-death situation (for the phoenixes).

Both pretty cool fight scenes, and better-choreographed than some action movies.

Look Before You Sleep had lower stakes, but part of the joke in that scene was that it was dramatized as if it were a really important epic showdown, and was animated as if it actually were one.

Just that it's not a big fight doesn't mean it's not a fight.

As an aside, it's possible to show teamwork in things other than fight scenes, and these things can still be instrumental in stopping ancient evils. Remember that I praised two scenes from the Discord arc as example. Discord himself was way too powerful to defeat with anything other than a rainbow blast, but the chase scene was clearly and directly necessary for that rainbow blast to happen. What we need is more of that kind of thing, instead of it being a brief aside in the episode.

Hmm. Come to think of it, that may also be part of why I liked the sudden guest star heroism when the main 6 had their cutie marks removed by Starlight Glimmer. Not exactly teamwork since they didn't coordinate their tactics that well, but they did each do individual things according to their talents, rather than just being props #2 through #6 for some kind of friendship cannon.

The Last Remnants of Our Town Restored wrote:It was her own fault that she got the library destroyed. She was on the balcony, looking at Tirek through her telescope.

Even if Twilight's actions contributed, it still looked like the Tree of Harmony expected Twilight to act in that way and had worked it into its plan.

At that point, we get into discussions about fate and the meaning of free will.

Post self-deleted by Trotterdam.

The Principality of Trotterdam wrote:At that point, we get into discussions about fate and the meaning of free will.

Wait a moment, isn't that how we started?

You know, with cutie marks and their relationship to fate and free will.

I've kind of lost track of what we were talking about.

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The Principality of Trotterdam wrote:
I've kind of lost track of what we were talking about.

Ponies.

The Principality of Trotterdam wrote:Wait a moment, isn't that how we started?
You know, with cutie marks and their relationship to fate and free will.
I've kind of lost track of what we were talking about.

That's a common side effect of talking to me.

The Principality of Trotterdam wrote:Pure speculation. It's an interesting theory, but I really see nothing in the episodes supporting it over the more obvious assumption that her act slipped because, even for a species of born magical impersonators, pretending to be someone else, especially for days on end, is hard. Chrysalis and Cadence have very different personalities, and some of her real personality is going to slip through. She only kept Shining Armor fooled by casting mind control spells on him. Other ponies didn't know her well enough to care.
Also, the Chrysalis probably was stressed-out, just not for the reasons Shining thought she was. Being deep in enemy territory, constantly interacting with several of the most powerful individuals in Equestria and worrying you might get found out, wondering how the invasion will go when the big day comes? Yeah, that's stressful.
At the very least Chrysalis is unlikely to have deliberately faked not knowing the "ladybugs awake" dance, and the episode was written to give the impression that her other slip-ups were in the same category.

That's equally possible. It's just that from sub-tier canon sources (the comics) Chrysalis is portrayed as a strategic genius and a master manipulator. As such, I'm more inclined to believe my theory.
There's MUCH more information on her character in the comics than. Two whole story arcs. She's easily my favorite villain, tied with Starlight.

The Principality of Trotterdam wrote:No, I mean that when Twilight broke down in tears and apologized, Chrysalis could have simply "forgiven" her, and Twilight would have accepted her as the real Cadence from then on.
Instead, she banished Twilight to somewhere that didn't really hold her back but did confirm her suspicions were correct after all, and gave Twilight direct access to the one thing most helpful in figuring out what's going on and proving it to the others - the real Cadence - that she would be unlikely to have been able to find otherwise (unless Cadence were less of an idiot and made her way out of that cave by herself days ago).

Eliminate the one pony who can foil her schemes. Or something. Maybe just wanted to seize the opportunity to toy with her rival.

The Principality of Trotterdam wrote:Yeah, it does seem like it was. So what? That's in the same vein as villains who keep putting heroes in deathtraps rather than just offing them already.

But does that make a bad villain? Every other villain in practically every other story does it and gets a free pass. Why not Chryssie?

The Principality of Trotterdam wrote:Even if it could have paid off in terms of somehow crushing Twilight's spirit (doesn't she have a more direct way of dealing with her?), it was a longshot gamble that banked on things going very exactly according to expectations, and which could easily backfire otherwise - which, surprise surprise, it did.

My personal opinion is that the wall wasn't intended to break, and she was supposed to stay trapped in the cave. Or something.
I'm tired.
I'm going to go to bed.

Draggy's on Skype tonight, under the username Rauhiss.

Deus ex mapina

The Last Remnants of Our Town Restored wrote:But does that make a bad villain? Every other villain in practically every other story does it and gets a free pass. Why not Chryssie?

I'm only getting on her case because you claimed she was so competent it needed a deus ex machina to take her down.

She wasn't. She made plenty of mistakes and got lucky not to be defeated by any of them.

The Principality of Trotterdam wrote:-snip-

I have to ask: why do you hate on the writers so much? And if you think they're incompetent, then why do you watch the show? If you think it's badly-written, then there's no reason to watch it.

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