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WA Delegate: The Republic of Grand Britaria (elected )

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WELCOME TO AUSTRITARIA! - Austritaria is an entire world, not a region or continent. This world is in an entirely separate 'universe' to Earth. This means Austritaria has its own unique history and no real world nations. This allows vast and fun creative freedom.

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Austritaria contains 74 nations, the 184th most in the world.

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NationWA CategoryMotto
11.The Republic of Grand BritariaLiberal Democratic Socialists“Sic Semper Tyrannis”
12.The Reichsbund of The WeltenbaumMoralistic Democracy“Brüderlichkeit, Freiheit, Gerechtigkeit”
13.The Empire of ClavkovaIron Fist Consumerists“May the blood of our enemies strengthen our resolve”
14.The Most Noble Queendom of DesertasNew York Times Democracy“Born in freedom, live in freedom, die in freedom”
15.The Nomadic Peoples of HarthiLiberal Democratic Socialists“Fight to Protect”
16.The Federation of TyleroaDemocratic Socialists“Justice, Equality, and The Federation”
17.The Holy Empire of FidorvanPsychotic Dictatorship“Live within the eye of God”
18.The Dictatorship of AngloriadDemocratic Socialists“United we stand, Divided we fall”
19.The Commonwealth of PolskstiaFather Knows Best State“Faith, Law & King”
20.The Democratic States of VraiynDemocratic Socialists“Victory through Unity; Unity through Loyalty.”
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The Democratic Republic of Ahlanganisia wrote:Since the Saudis are the only ones capable at pumping the volume necessary to keep the prices this low, I'm not sure what you're implying. I think the most probable reason is to bankrupt the American and Canadian drillers like Korouse said, and also to keep Iran from regaining their pre-1979 market share.

"This a complicated question, but it boils down to the simple economics of supply and demand.

United States domestic production has nearly doubled over the last several years, pushing out oil imports that need to find another home. Saudi, Nigerian and Algerian oil that once was sold in the United States is suddenly competing for Asian markets, and the producers are forced to drop prices. Canadian and Iraqi oil production and exports are rising year after year. Even the Russians, with all their economic problems, manage to keep pumping at record levels." - Ny times

And yes the Saudi economy is really suffering.

Mondaa

Saudi Arabia, the world's largest oil producer, has been hard-hit by the slump in oil prices. The country's fiscal deficit soared to $98bn (£69bn) last year from about $15bn (£10bn) in 2014. The current price of Brent crude is around $41 a barrel, well short of the $115 a barrel it went for in June 2014.

The Republican Union of Rio de Fuego wrote:"This a complicated question, but it boils down to the simple economics of supply and demand.
United States domestic production has nearly doubled over the last several years, pushing out oil imports that need to find another home. Saudi, Nigerian and Algerian oil that once was sold in the United States is suddenly competing for Asian markets, and the producers are forced to drop prices. Canadian and Iraqi oil production and exports are rising year after year. Even the Russians, with all their economic problems, manage to keep pumping at record levels." - Ny times
And yes the Saudi economy is really suffering.

I think that quote is compatible with what I said about Iran, and about North American fracking. We can agree there's a lot of different factors at play. And I'm certainly not debating the state of the Saudi economy, but I'm saying the Saudis can afford to drill longer at these prices. Most other countries have a heavier crude that requires a more costly refining process. Where the Saudis are struggling is their lack of diversity. Not everyone can become a tourism destination like the UAE.

The Democratic Republic of Ahlanganisia wrote:I think that quote is compatible with what I said about Iran, and about North American fracking. We can agree there's a lot of different factors at play. And I'm certainly not debating the state of the Saudi economy, but I'm saying the Saudis can afford to drill longer at these prices. Most other countries have a heavier crude that requires a more costly refining process. Where the Saudis are struggling is their lack of diversity. Not everyone can become a tourism destination like the UAE.

The Saudi economy is suffering when they have a 98 BILLION with a B deficit....

The Republican Union of Rio de Fuego wrote:No dawg. I know the Muslims conquered a huge fvck off empire. but they didn't like totally Viking that sht. They weren't burning down every city and converting people by sword point.

They didn't raze cities to the ground because that tends to be counterproductive when building an empire that you hope will last.

They certainly raped and pillaged their way through Persia, the Levant, and North Africa, as every army did, does, and will keep on doing whenever they conquer new lands. How else do you keep tens of thousands of soldiers motivated?

Conversions weren't forceful in the sense that they gave their new subjects the choice between conversion and death, but they were forceful in the sense that an incentive in the form of heavy taxation was provided to get the commoners to convert. The aristocracy and local elites were generally spared this to get them to cooperate - that is, if they hadn't been slaughtered and replaced with more trustworthy Muslim Arab elites. Also came suppression of local laws and religious practices. Generally, people in conquered areas had three options: 1) convert 2) live as a second class citizen with social debilitations 3) die.

Was Islamic conquest markedly worse than any empire of that era? Nope.
But was it lovely and peaceful? Hardly.

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The Sultanate of Mondaa wrote:The Saudi economy is suffering when they have a 98 BILLION with a B deficit....

The Democratic Republic of Ahlanganisia wrote:I'm certainly not debating the state of the Saudi economy

Mondaa

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Was Islamic conquest markedly worse than any empire of that era? Nope.
Which I never claimed? My only point was they weren't barbarous and bloodthirsty.

Though I would point out that the early caliphate tended to adapt to the local laws rather then enforce there own. In most cases the followed the legal and tax codes of the Byzantines or Sassanians. Even the Jizya was in most cases LOWER then the taxes imposed by the Romans or Persians. Also most Dhimmi weren't treated as second class citizens. In many cases the other People of the Book were granted considerable autonomy.

The Republican Union of Rio de Fuego wrote:[quote=igoria;19541889]
Was Islamic conquest markedly worse than any empire of that era? Nope.
Which I never claimed? My only point was they weren't barbarous and bloodthirsty.
Though I would point out that the early caliphate tended to adapt to the local laws rather then enforce there own. In most cases the followed the legal and tax codes of the Byzantines or Sassanians. Even the Jizya was in most cases LOWER then the taxes imposed by the Romans or Persians. Also most Dhimmi weren't treated as second class citizens. In many cases the other People of the Book were granted considerable autonomy.

Not being allowed to ride horses is pretty second class.

The Republican Union of Rio de Fuego wrote:[quote=igoria;19541889]
Was Islamic conquest markedly worse than any empire of that era? Nope.
Which I never claimed? 1)My only point was they weren't barbarous and bloodthirsty.
Though I would point out that the early caliphate tended to adapt to the 2) local laws rather then enforce there own. In most cases the followed the legal and tax codes of the Byzantines or Sassanians. 3)Even the Jizya was in most cases LOWER then the taxes imposed by the Romans or Persians. Also most Dhimmi weren't treated as second class citizens. In many cases the other People of the Book were granted considerable autonomy.

1)They were certainly bloodthirsty - why else go about conquering a massive empire to spread the word of the good book?

2)Perhaps. Again, that was more out of sense of practicality than anything, similar to going easy on local elites to ensure their cooperation. I should have probably mentioned that the earlier caliphate was more lenient. But once the new rulers became entrenched, that's when the fun began. Quran law suppressed most laws, and Islamic courts became the real dispensers of justice. Perhaps some minor offences of some kind were still dealt with using the old codes, I can't speak as to that.

3)The Persians and Byzantines had been fighting a non-stop war for some 30 years by that point, taxes were bound to be high. But that is irrelevant. What matters is that they taxed non-muslims far heavier than muslims. If the Republicans replaced the Democrats and lowered taxes for everyone, but taxed Mexicans, Blacks and Muslims more than White Anglo-Saxon Protestants, surely that would still be bad?

The Old Empire of Igoria wrote:Not being allowed to ride horses is pretty second class.

Source on that? From what I've read that only applied for when you were paying the jizya as a sign of submission.

The Old Empire of Igoria wrote:1)They were certainly bloodthirsty - why else go about conquering a massive empire to spread the word of the good book?
2)Perhaps. Again, that was more out of sense of practicality than anything, similar to going easy on local elites to ensure their cooperation. I should have probably mentioned that the earlier caliphate was more lenient. But once the new rulers became entrenched, that's when the fun began. Quran law suppressed most laws, and Islamic courts became the real dispensers of justice. Perhaps some minor offences of some kind were still dealt with using the old codes, I can't speak as to that.
3)The Persians and Byzantines had been fighting a non-stop war for some 30 years by that point, taxes were bound to be high. But that is irrelevant. What matters is that they taxed non-muslims far heavier than muslims. If the Republicans replaced the Democrats and lowered taxes for everyone, but taxed Mexicans, Blacks and Muslims more than White Anglo-Saxon Protestants, surely that would still be bad?

1) You know what I mean
2) Yeah that'd be the Abbasids, the Ummayads and Early caliphate were much more lenient.
3) While the first half is true the second part is dubious. From the wikipedia article I gleaned that while rates weren't necessarily consistent Jizya tended to be equivalent to the Zakat Tax levied on the muslim population and varied depending on ones ability to pay.

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