Anarchy RMB Anarchy was Liberated by Security Council Resolution # 135

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Most World Assembly Endorsements: 63rd Most Nations: 110th Greatest Rich-Poor Divides: 695th+6
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Freedom, remember, is not the same as liberty.

Libertas Supra Omnia - Freedom Above All

'Freedom, morality, and the human dignity of the individual consists precisely in this; that he does good not because he is forced to do so, but because he freely conceives it, wants it, and loves it.'
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Anarchy contains 123 nations, the 110th most in the world.

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NationWA CategoryMotto
21.The Federation of A Humanist ScienceCivil Rights Lovefest“scientia ac labore”
22.The Oppressed Peoples of LesbeaconScandinavian Liberal Paradise“Never ever depend on governments to solve problems”
23.The Holy Empire of XIMJYMInoffensive Centrist Democracy“Nobody Kills Us Except Us”
24.The Rogue Nation of DorgamAnarchy“Live before dying.”
25.The Confederacy of MillhokenCivil Rights Lovefest“The Desert Confederacy”
26.The Allied States of Thirteen ShadowsNew York Times Democracy“13”
27.The Jingoistic States of CunfundredInoffensive Centrist Democracy“Tyranny is falling”
28.The Republic of KoochichingAnarchy“Lac a la Pluie”
29.The Holy Empire of Slim ShadobadobsMoralistic Democracy“Do she got a booty, SHE DOOOOO!!!”
30.The Free Land of Federal Assemblies of the CentreScandinavian Liberal Paradise“We're not gonna take it FR/ES”
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The Christliche Bundesrepublik of Shetl wrote:Nazi Germany was a Corporate Police State btw. A shadowy cabal of German industrialists bankrolled Hitler's 1933 election campaign; they got cheap loans (coerced from jewish bankers), human capital (forced laborers) and a thriving business climate (pre-WWII arms buildup) in return.

lest we forget, american and british robber barons had their grubby hands in it also.

The Nomadic Peoples of Tsagatai wrote:Yeah and the Nazis improved the standard of living for many people. But they were still evil.


1) It's trivially easy to demonstrate that the Nazis did no such thing.

2) Godwin's law :p

The Nomadic Peoples of Tsagatai wrote:
Corporations do what they do to protect their bottom line, not out of the goodness of their hearts.


As does every other person, or group there of, pursuing that which they prefer. You hold your own preferences because they benefit you.

But that's OK, if the ends of your pursuit are ethical. And it's not OK when they're not.

It's complicated.

The Nomadic Peoples of Tsagatai wrote:
The same corporations who are happy to extend rights to their LGBT employees and customers have no problem destroying the rights of others and trashing the ecosystem...


A point I've already made myself, so...

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The Nomadic Peoples of Tsagatai wrote: The entire corporate model is one of privatizing profits and externalizing costs.


The Holy Frijoles Batman of The Peoples Confederacy of Rusty Things wrote:Not sure what you think I meant. The State ---> Organized Religion ---> Corporations = manus manum lavat


Presumably, we are aware that worker-owned industries, cooperatives, and other forms of workplace democracy very frequently incorporate, yes? It would be damned foolish if they didn't, even if it wasn't a matter of survival in a mostly hostile world.

The Nomadic Peoples of Tsagatai wrote:
Doing the right thing, or a somewhat less bad thing, for the wrong reasons, is no defense at all against that line of reasoning, or against a system that is built upon that line of reasoning.


I'm not really sure what "defense" you're referring to. At any rate, I've already given examples myself of the evils that many corporations have perpetuated. But the existence of these evils do not make the many demonstrable goods disappear either.

At any rate, since compassion, inclusion, and liberty are all likely to build a society in which I will individually benefit or even profit, I'm saddened to realize that I must immediately stop advocating them because that would be selfish and wrong. :p

The Nomadic Peoples of Tsagatai wrote:
Corporations do what they do to protect their bottom line, not out of the goodness of their hearts. Discrimination is usually not good for profit margins.


I fact, you know what's really crazy about this point of view? The reason why discrimination is not good for profit is exactly because society has become increasingly more compassionate, inclusive, and free. It's exactly because people as a whole increasingly refuse to do business, or otherwise associate, with the cruel, exclusive, and oppressive.

This is additional evidence against any claim, explicit or implied, that "Western" society is domestically anything like a police state.

It also means that people who try to make such claims, explicitly or by implication, come off looking like they're pissed because they're winning.

The Christliche Bundesrepublik of Shetl wrote:Nazi Germany was a Corporate Police State btw. A shadowy cabal of German industrialists bankrolled Hitler's 1933 election campaign; they got cheap loans (coerced from jewish bankers), human capital (forced laborers) and a thriving business climate (pre-WWII arms buildup) in return.

wouldnt it be iron fist consumerists or not?

I just got an issue about capital punishment. In the scenario presented most people wish for capital punishment to be re-instated after a particularly brutal murder.

The first solution offered lets people elect the official that suppprts capital punisent. The second solution offered bars any legislation from being passed that legalizes capital punishment.

It seems to me that if I choose the first one the civil rights go down, but if I choose the second choice then political rights go down. Which one should I choose? Which moral trumps the other?

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The Commonwealth of Loosely Associated Peoples wrote:Which one should I choose? Which moral trumps the other?


The one that doesn't provide for the possibility of putting the innocent to death.

Elections are a convenient and effective tool for facilitating the peaceful resolution of conflict, and the non-bloody transition of power. This, however, is independent of, and irrelevant to, the morality of capital punishment. Since no person has the right to put the innocent to death, no group has the right either. Ergo, putting the innocent to death is forbidden, whatever vote be damned.

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