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Most Nations: 111th Most World Assembly Endorsements: 117th Greatest Rich-Poor Divides: 685th+7
Most Influential: 778th Most Rebellious Youth: 1,155th Highest Crime Rates: 1,366th Most Armed: 1,537th Highest Drug Use: 1,618th Most Extensive Civil Rights: 1,955th Nudest: 2,043rd
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Anarchy contains 120 nations, the 111th most in the world.

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Nations ranked highly have lower rates of preventable death, with their citizens enjoying longer average lifespans.

As a region, Anarchy is ranked 11,705th in the world for Longest Average Lifespans.

NationWA CategoryMotto
1.The Republic of New Sensual DelightsLeft-wing Utopia“Be Sensual Be Clean”
2.The Xenopolis of YoriZLeft-wing Utopia“Ⓐrtists, not Ⓐrmies!”
3.The Libertarian Socialist Nation of Echelon StateLeft-wing Utopia“Own nothing. Give everything.”
4.The Christliche Bundesrepublik of ShetlLeft-wing Utopia“The greatest one among you must be like the youngest.”
5.The Free Territory of Astrum NigrumLeft-wing Utopia“No state, no god, no masters, no slaves.”
6.The Anarchist Confederation of AnarchadomLeft-wing Utopia“Ni Dios, Ni Amo, Ni Patria, Ni Partido, Ni Marido”
7.The Nomadic Peoples of NatapocLeft-wing Utopia“In the oligarchy we trust not.”
8.The Green Community of Irontown IILeft-wing Utopia“What exactly are you here for?”
9.The Creeping Celestial Vault of Sun and Moon and StarsScandinavian Liberal Paradise“No gods; No kings”
10.The Evangelizing Metasyndicate of Sierra LyricaliaCivil Rights Lovefest“Veritas potentiae et actio interfationis libera”
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The Federation of A Humanist Science wrote:1) It's trivially easy to demonstrate that the Nazis did no such thing.


You're saying living conditions were better in the Weimar Republic, when it took a wheelbarrow full of cash to buy a loaf of bread?

The Federation of A Humanist Science wrote:But that's OK, if the ends of your pursuit are ethical. And it's not OK when they're not.


That's my point. Corporations and the system that has enabled their rise routinely sacrifices ethics for the sake of profit. In fact, they have no other choice - the system is designed so that one cannot do other than sacrifice ethics for profit.

The Federation of A Humanist Science wrote:I fact, you know what's really crazy about this point of view? The reason why discrimination is not good for profit is exactly because society has become increasingly more compassionate, inclusive, and free. It's exactly because people as a whole increasingly refuse to do business, or otherwise associate, with the cruel, exclusive, and oppressive. This is additional evidence against any claim, explicit or implied, that "Western" society is domestically anything like a police state.


This is the worst sort of Malcolm Gladwell Panglossian pablum. "Society" has not become any of these things; we have simply exported our cruelty, exclusion and oppression overseas. This is why you have to justify your claim with "domestically". But there is no separation between domestic and foreign policy; the West lives at is does because of the historical and on-going exploitation of the rest of the world.

For that matter, even if we focus exclusively on the West, your claim is only true for the relatively privileged. People of color, the poor, and other marginalized groups are living in a police state. The US has the highest prison population in the world right now. There are more Black men in prison than there ever were under slavery. Try telling them they aren't living a police state! Try telling them how enlightened and compassionate our society is!

You have to be living in a bubble of affluence and comfort to make such claims or to believe them.

Pantuxia

The Free Ancom society of Anarchist commies wrote:wouldnt it be iron fist consumerists or not?

Meh. People have different takes on it. I've made my own nation, which is based on an alternate history where Nazi Germany takes over the world.
I got Psychotic Dictatorship at first, then Iron Fist Consumerists-
nation=deytha

No matter how much one nation conquers, it's collapse is inevitable. In the end that is our past, present, and future.The real question is what causes the collapse. Causes could possibly be rebellion, war, food shortages, or maybe just good old-fashioned ineptitude in leadership. What are the underlying causes for all of these? Could it be human nature? Could it be lack of faith in the way we maintain ourselves?

May the 4th be with you.

Erect Flatilus

The Rogue Nation of Jack Raiden wrote: No matter how much one nation conquers, it's collapse is inevitable. In the end that is our past, present, and future.The real question is what causes the collapse. Causes could possibly be rebellion, war, food shortages, or maybe just good old-fashioned ineptitude in leadership. What are the underlying causes for all of these? Could it be human nature? Could it be lack of faith in the way we maintain ourselves?


LAZINESS. People get lazy and are like "ill take care of that rebellious general tomorrow. Weve survived a thousand years, it's not we're going anywhere". And then then Mongols are all like SUPRISE ATTACK and there goes the chinese empire.

The Commonwealth of Loosely Associated Peoples wrote:LAZINESS. People get lazy and are like "ill take care of that rebellious general tomorrow. Weve survived a thousand years, it's not we're going anywhere". And then then Mongols are all like SUPRISE ATTACK and there goes the chinese empire.

In the end, it's an impossibility for only one factor to contribute to the downfall of large entities. It takes contributions from within and from outside.

The Nomadic Peoples of Tsagatai wrote:
You have to be living in a bubble of affluence and comfort...


This is probably true. It's probably true of you too, or anyone else who can afford to take a break from daily subsistence to read an argument on an Internet game, by use of a relatively sophisticated and expensive technology. As such, I could note how easy it is to condemn various facets of society while also comfortably consuming its product. I won't though, because that would actually be unfair for a variety of reasons. Not the least of which being that the nature of the society around you remains, for the most part, out of your direct control.

Instead, I'll note that it does anarchists little good to absolutely reject any movement in the direction of their preferences because that move is very small, or incomplete, or doesn't perfectly comport with their ideological preferences. When they do this, at best, they make themselves irrelevant; no one can ever meet their high standards by definition, so no one has any reason to give a sh*t who they are or what they stand for. At worst, they train anyone that hears them to reject any positive change unless that change comes under a set of circumstances (completely perfect solution in zero time) that have, at most, an infinitesimally tiny chance of ever actually holding.

In short, they train people to reject positive change.

I'm sorry if my willingness to praise even imperfect or incomplete positive change offends you. I personally see, again for example, expanded access to health care for LGBT people as a positive, if incomplete, improvement. I think that's reasonable. Even if that expanded access only arrived because some dirty corporation (at least some of which are non-profit or socially/worker owned and operated, again btw) only wants to gain somehow. I'll take it for now, because it means a marginalized group is that much less marginalized. At the very least, I cannot reject "selfish" motivations, because my own motivations (to not be oppressed) are at least equally "selfish." And, hopefully, if I acknowledge the positive change, more will follow for others of the marginalized as well.

I could sit around fantasizing about the glorious instant revolution that will never be (or which when attempted, historically, pretty much fails spectacularly or devolves into police states of their own), or I could help get sh*t done.

Seriously, all anarchists should be taking up positions in government and corporations so that they can affect the change they want from the inside. But refusing to do so because they might get the stink on them...and then to seriously accuse anyone else of arrogance or privilege. Please.

And yes, in real life, I am employed by The Evil Government (TM); I even talk to police officers on a daily basis, the most supreme horror of all! I do this in order to implement social and educational public services, doing what tiny little I can for the poor, marginalized, non-white, and ill (especially mentally ill). Still, you have to expel me from your perfect anarchist ideological utopia, what with my being a fu*kin' g-man and all. :p

Loosely Associated Peoples

The Rogue Nation of Jack Raiden wrote:In the end, it's an I'm
possibility for only one factor to contribute to the downfall of large entities. It takes contributions from within and from outside.

Yea...but laziness is probably on of the top ones, alongside institutions having a feeling of false security.

The Federation of A Humanist Science wrote:This...


While you're right to encourage people to try to change the current system from the inside, this is a very limiting tactic. Small success aren't to be discarded, but one must still be wary of them and not lose sight of the bigger picture. They can cause a movement to lose it's momentum and sputter out into nothing.

The idea that anarchists mooch around all day and complain is absolutely nonsense.

I would prefer direct action, such as eroding the power of the state to tax, regulate, and control by setting up my own underground business, helping illegal immigrants cross the border, moonshining, sex work, being self sufficient, joining underground economies such as bitcoin, et cetera. All of these activities can both pay the bills and help many more people at the same time than standing on a soapbox and giving vague promises.

Pantuxia and Loosely Associated Peoples

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